The UK's Finest Independent Forum for Shooters and Gun Owners. Est 2010.

Pete
Perhaps the reduction in Shotgun Certs is BECAUSE of the surge in Practical Shotgun as these have to be held on a FAC.

Maybe if we were allowed to buy semi auto centerfire rifles and pistols then the bad guys wouldnt have anything to use as we good guys would have them.... Just thinking out loud...

Mark

No one who wants a gun, legal or otherwise, can be a good guy in their eyes.

It would seem this is more of an issue than anything the law abiding people do!

It's according to Tony Blair so it must be true.......................

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -west.html

I am quite sure the sales / theft of legally owned working firearms and deacts is nowhere near enough to arm this threat!

bigfathairybiker wrote:Maybe if we were allowed to buy semi auto centerfire rifles and pistols then the bad guys wouldnt have anything to use as we good guys would have them.... Just thinking out loud...

Mark

Pete wrote: The slight reduction in shotgun certs. is surprising, given the apparent popularity of Practical shotgun. Could this be knee-jerk over the EU proposals?

Pete

As mentioned above PSG is mainly with S1 shotguns which require an FAC. However, i have noticed on the forums i'm a member of an increase in sales of 'military-style' .22's

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/video/uk-terr ... 10676.html

Opening line "Thankfully, firearms and weapons attacks in the UK are very rare!" Then Wwhat the heck is it with wanting to ban out guns!

Sorry, forgot that PS shotguns were FAC.........

Pete

Hope all our lucky EU pals can go out and buy these;

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015 ... 49-public/

I've just had a well-considered reply -

Dear HALODIN,

Further to your recent email to Margot Parker MEP please find below a response which I hope you will find informative.

EU Firearms Proposals

Thank you for writing to me on this issue. The Commission draft has not yet reached the parliament, so we are not in a position to comment on the detail. However two points are very clear.

First, the weapons used in the Paris atrocity, and more generally the weapons used in most terrorist attacks, are illegally-held weapons. Changing the law on gun ownership is therefore unlikely to have any significant impact on the availability of weapons to terrorists. Indeed the EU is clearly the problem, not the solution. There is extensive evidence that for example Croatia, which recently joined the EU, is a hotbed of smuggling – not only of arms, but also of money, drugs, people and even human organs. It has been said (and it is no exaggeration) that free movement of goods and people in the EU (and especially the Schengen area) has led to free movement of Kalashnikovs.

The problem is not that we have too little regulation, but that we are failing to implement the legislation we already have.

Secondly, so far as we understand it the UK already has some of the tightest firearms regulation in the world. We do not believe that further legislation at the EU level will make any additional contribution to public safety. In any case we in UKIP are opposed in principle to any extension of competences at the EU level.

While the EU Commission maintains that any EU led changes to gun control laws will not impact museums administered by public authorities, this statement is sufficiently ambiguous that we are not sure of the unintended cultural impacts that the legislation would have, which adds to our concerns.

In any case we in UKIP are opposed in principle to any extension of competences at the EU level.

I therefore believe that we in UKIP will be opposing the new EU Firearms proposal. Sadly, however, I fear it will be approved anyway. There is nothing most MEPs like more than a nice piece of gesture politics in response to public concern – whether or not their gesture has any practical effect.

Kind regards
Louise

Louise Davies
EA to Margot Parker MEP