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Re: The Best Service rifles ever (argument starter)
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:17 pm
by toffe wrapper
Sim G
first on my list,
By the time it is replaced will it possibly be the shortest service life of the shortest british rifle.
TW
Re: The Best Service rifles ever (argument starter)
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:51 pm
by Sim G
toffe wrapper wrote:Sim G
first on my list,
By the time it is replaced will it possibly be the shortest service life of the shortest british rifle.
TW
No it wasn't. The first weapon to use the system being lauded as the panecea predates the SA80 by some 20 years.....!
Re: The Best Service rifles ever (argument starter)
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:21 am
by webb22
an armalite out of the sterling factory or G3 (now thats a beefy bit of kit!)
Re: The Best Service rifles ever (argument starter)
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:00 am
by Sim G
Yep, Armalite AR18...
The G3 was a roller locking delayed blowback.
Re: The Best Service rifles ever (argument starter)
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:15 am
by saddler
toffe wrapper wrote:
By the time it is replaced will it possibly be the shortest service life of the shortest british rifle.
NO
Look up "Rifle, No.9 Mk.1"
THE best British Army rifle of the 20th Century - sacrificed by UK politicians as the US was not in favour of the proposed caliber change....then did exactly that within a decade!!
Re: The Best Service rifles ever (argument starter)
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:47 pm
by toffe wrapper
Saddler
did not count em2 as service rifle as was not on general issue. Same a dimarco's are not on general issue.
Sim G
Did not know about AR18 am going to read up on it.
TW
Re: The Best Service rifles ever (argument starter)
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:50 pm
by saddler
toffe wrapper wrote:Saddler
did not count em2 as service rifle as was not on general issue. Same a dimarco's are not on general issue.
Sim G
Did not know about AR18 am going to read up on it.
TW
My mistake, never spotted the "general issue" part of "By the time it is replaced will it possibly be the shortest service life of the shortest british rifle"
EM2 DID see active service...WAS given nomenclature of Rifle No.9, etc.
...you did NOT know about AR18???
Re: The Best Service rifles ever (argument starter)
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:03 pm
by toffe wrapper
I did not know about AR18 gas piston internals.
lots of rifles I know of, but little about I could not strip an M1 carbine if my life depended on it.
The ones I listed execpt Hk I have direct experiance of.
TW
Re: The Best Service rifles ever (argument starter)
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:54 pm
by Classic Rifles
Got to through in my own thoughts here!
Just do some of the older ones...
Lee Enfield No. 4 - Superbly designed and built, very accurate, heavy hitter and that all important 10 rd magazine
K98 - The bolt design is possibly the most widely used one, very accurate as well
K31 - Ahead of its time in my opinion. Straight pull allowed for incredibly rapid rate of fire. Design was ingenious too. If you ever have a look at one it has a similar mechanism to modern day semi-auto/auto rifles with the revolving bolt.
AK-47 - What other rifle can you throw in the river, pick it up and let loose?
Re: The Best Service rifles ever (argument starter)
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:43 pm
by huntervixen
saddler wrote:toffe wrapper wrote:Saddler
did not count em2 as service rifle as was not on general issue. Same a dimarco's are not on general issue.
Sim G
Did not know about AR18 am going to read up on it.
TW
My mistake, never spotted the "general issue" part of "By the time it is replaced will it possibly be the shortest service life of the shortest british rifle"
EM2 DID see active service...WAS given nomenclature of Rifle No.9, etc.
...you did NOT know about AR18???
Thats very interesting mate, where did the EM2 see Service?