Variation done quickly but reduced ammo allowance?

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zanes

Re: Variation done quickly but reduced ammo allowance?

#41 Post by zanes »

Browning_grrl wrote:
saddler wrote:
Browning_grrl wrote:I guess I thought the UK 'regime' was somewhat more draconian than it actually seems to be. Obviously, I was mistaken. :)
I met someone who's FAC allowed purchase of 50 rounds of .22lr & holding 100 rounds of .22lr...and he was almost prosecuted for having 5 rounds over the limit on an inspection....

So, am I wrong in thinking that the numbers I have seen in this Thread are typical? Are quite small numbers, like your example, more the norm??
The guidance linked in my signature will give you ideas of "typical" amounts of ammo for different purposes (Section 13)
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Re: Variation done quickly but reduced ammo allowance?

#42 Post by Browning_grrl »

zanes wrote: The guidance linked in my signature will give you ideas of "typical" amounts of ammo for different purposes (Section 13)

Yeah, thanks SO much for that.. I am a qualified Attorney-at-Law (Barrister and Solicitor to you) so I can read legislation and related Regulations and Interpretations. However, I had thought that an answer might be available as to prevailing common practice, and some more amiable members seem to have provided that. My genuine thanks to those members. :)
techguy

Re: Variation done quickly but reduced ammo allowance?

#43 Post by techguy »

It varies by region, and your reason..

If you're a competitive shooter you will want to shoot a single batch over a year. Or season. If you're an informal target shooter then a couple of hundred seems the norm.

Some small bore shooters will be able to possess several thousand .22lr, others have a battle together 1000 on ticket..

You can buy as many shotgun shells as you like, and that's not recorded anywhere. Slugs are entered on to your ticket like rimfire or centrefire ammo..
Marmite5

Re: Variation done quickly but reduced ammo allowance?

#44 Post by Marmite5 »

So whats the maximum allowance anyone has had in any calibre? I've goy 1100 .22LR but all my centre fire stuff is limited to 300 rounds of each with 250 to buy.
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Re: Variation done quickly but reduced ammo allowance?

#45 Post by safetyfirst »

2500 .22. Is the most I've ever had.
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Re: Variation done quickly but reduced ammo allowance?

#46 Post by Marmite5 »

How did you justify that amount? I suppose if you shot 5 cards every week at a small bore club that would be 2500 in a year. As I buy my ammo at the club I've never needed that much.
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Re: Variation done quickly but reduced ammo allowance?

#47 Post by Blackstuff »

Browning_grrl wrote:
saddler wrote:
Browning_grrl wrote:I guess I thought the UK 'regime' was somewhat more draconian than it actually seems to be. Obviously, I was mistaken. :)
I met someone who's FAC allowed purchase of 50 rounds of .22lr & holding 100 rounds of .22lr...and he was almost prosecuted for having 5 rounds over the limit on an inspection....

So, am I wrong in thinking that the numbers I have seen in this Thread are typical? Are quite small numbers, like your example, more the norm??
Its a post(zip)code lottery. There is a different police force for each county in the UK and each has its own way of doing things, intepreting the legislation and the government issued guidance. It isn't supposed to happen, but it does. They have recently been trying to reduce it but there are annomalies.

If a person is a target shooter it is 'normal' for them to get 5-600rds of centrefire ammo and 1000 rimfire. If they are a pest controller the centrefire limit is usually much lower 100-200rds (although there are always exceptions), but their rimfire allowance is usually the same as a target shooter or even higher, but its down to that person to demostrate they have need for however many rounds they ask for.

The ammo limits are to prevent people stockpiling ammo that could A/ be used for terrorist level activity (think IRA) B/ to prevent an individual becoming a target themselves of criminals/terrorists should their large holdings become known. Most individuals do not have sufficient security to repel a serious attack on their property or person for the length of time it would take for the police to arrive, and thats if the police even get to know about it before they're called to a murder scene.

That said, the prosecution of shooters for being a few rounds over their hold limit is not in the public interest (IMO) and should never, ever happen. A 'slap on the wrist' (e.g. a warning letter that the person certificate is at risk) is more than enough to make most shooters learn to count better.
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Marmite5

Re: Variation done quickly but reduced ammo allowance?

#48 Post by Marmite5 »

Makes sense I suppose.
zanes

Re: Variation done quickly but reduced ammo allowance?

#49 Post by zanes »

Browning_grrl wrote:
zanes wrote: The guidance linked in my signature will give you ideas of "typical" amounts of ammo for different purposes (Section 13)

Yeah, thanks SO much for that.. I am a qualified Attorney-at-Law (Barrister and Solicitor to you) so I can read legislation and related Regulations and Interpretations. However, I had thought that an answer might be available as to prevailing common practice, and some more amiable members seem to have provided that. My genuine thanks to those members. :)
wtf

You were asking for roughly typical amounts, the guidance document will give you rough starting amounts that are then modified (and in some cases massively skewed (from the very small amounts listed previously to "As Required" for a very high level international shooter at one of my previous clubs) by individual circumstances.

As an AAL I would have thought that your starting point for understanding the UKs Firearms laws would be to read the actual acts themselves; being a "layman" the language in the acts is rather difficult for me to understand so I look towards the (pretty easy to read and understand guidance for a starting point for pretty much all of my legal queries, which is I think what you're after?.

The guidance generally forms the basis of prevailing common practice, though like any other guidance it is just that, guidance.
Marmite5

Re: Variation done quickly but reduced ammo allowance?

#50 Post by Marmite5 »

I suppose common practice varies from region to region and force to force.
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