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My local range is allowed "pistol calibre" up to 350ft/lb and 2000 ft/s. So pretty much .38 and .44spl.
Not exactly "pistol calibre" then, it would be easier to just say what is actually allowed, but then that would preclude down-loading So the term becomes even less relevant.

From my experience of dealing with Mr A G Aitken he is not fit for purpose, in whatever role he has in the NSRA, either.

He was the person who convinced us to stop our membership of the NSRA as they were obviously well out of their depth with huge knowledge and experience gaps in the organisation when it came to things other than .22 rimfire being used on NSRA competition sanctioned courses of fire using the correct targets.

Demonic69 wrote:but then that would preclude down-loading.

Downloading from what?

Another meaningless term in this context.

A range certificate is for safety purposes and defines the maximum calibre, velocity and muzzle energy that is deemed safe by the issuing organisation for that range.

So long as whatever goes down that range is within those limits then it is good to go so long as it comes from a legally held firearm.

Chronographs are cheap and readily available and there is no reason for a club not to be able to demonstrate that those using the range are within its limits regardless of chambering or firearm.

We have enough restrictions on our activity already without numpty "national" organisations like the NSRA making it even more difficult and confusing for us shooters for no other reason than their ignorance of the subject that they are supposed to be "leading" on.

i've suggested leaving to the club secretary, but he seemed to think that it would cost too much to join the NRA, and then that they would still need to be in the NSRA for all the .22 sides postal comps etc. And it might still not make any difference, as its the beds county range, and so our using it is subject to other peoples inputs, including the range committee. so as i say, i have joined a more open minded club, which hopefully will have longer legs than the beds range. i'll just turn up on mondays when i can, shoot blackpowder and 44mag, 38spl & .22 and leave it at that :/

we were told no downloading also.... so it's probably standard spiel for the NSRA

I think what the NSRA monkey's done there is looked at a table explaining "typical MVs/MEs associated with common terms" and decided that's a binding definition set in stone which means everything but single-shot .22" is haram.

Which is plain bloody stupid.

Why does the NSRA - the NGB for all rimfire and bow/crossbow shooting - have any say in fullbore range certification?

When our club left the NSRA for the NRA it actually cost us less.

Regarding the competitions all our small bore and airgun shooters compete in the county leagues which does not require NSRA affilation for the clubs.

In relation to NSRA competitions you can only shoot them if you are an NSRA individual member so again club affiliation is irrelevant.

Insurance was the only reason that we were NSRA affiliated and when we found out that it was not fit for purpose and the NSRA wouldn't support us in any way regarding full bore we obviously moved, members of our club deserve better than the contempt that the NSRA treated them with. We were told that we were too much bother when we asked for clarification on full bore issues, I always thought that these organisations were here for the membership but as far as the NSRA is concerned their membership is there for the organisation.

Who certifies private or commercial ranges these days?

James K wrote:Who certifies private or commercial ranges these days?

Home Office?.

NRA or the NSRA.

The military can do it but choose not to nowadays having given the duty to the gangs above.