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Dougan wrote:

Sim G wrote:

Dougan wrote: Being an Ecologist is a profession - They need to be qualified, and their personal opinions should not interfere with their work...other than to inspire them to work

So no ecologist opinion here, then....?

http://www.theecologist.org

It's a publication...just like the Economist for economists...

...bored with this part of the discussion now...

So judging from what is written in the publication "The Ecologist" for, ecologists, my description is correct....?

Dougan wrote:, but it's proven (by scientists).

By the same sort of scientists that said the earth was flat? Or by the same sort of scientists that had to back track on the predictions of doom with global warming....?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/e ... wrong.html

Awesome. Climate change scepticism.

Did you know pigs can't look up?

The climate has been changing since the end of the ice age. The difference is, some people are concieted enough believe that man is so importantant to have influenced and then hence change, the inevitable.

Ah, you'll probably brand me a Nazi or racist next.

Was it not man who caused the last 2 known ice-ages? What do you mean we weren't around? Then who pumped the atmosphere full of CFC? Maybe dinosaurs had old fridges.

By the same sort of scientists that said the earth was flat? Or by the same sort of scientists that had to back track on the predictions of doom with global warming....?

You make a very good point, I've been watch this story, grow over the last week there are a few think I've found out. The LAG and the way it is being run it just like the Global Warming scam. Get a number of scientists to agree building up a consensus. A number of the scientists will be for the WWT and RSPB both anti-lead.

By the email if written by John Swift Chair of the LAG then that puts the shooting organisation agreeing to a lead ban?

john swift came to a Deer Initiative meeting in November last year briefing that the LAG was looking at rifle ammunition too. He report that the Norwegian study showed that hunters had high levels of lead in the blood and hunter that reloaded had 52% high lead level in there blood. However he did not say that the study showed that the Norwegain hunter had below average lead levels than in the EU Average.

Two years ago they where talking about us [rifle shooters] using Tungsten Bullets but as they have stopped making them that over and done with now.

But do not think Target or Sporting shooter are save. Same members of the LAG want all lead ammo banned. I have more info on the facebook group "Save Our lead Shot" link below.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/386424074747289/

safetyfirst wrote:Awesome. Climate change scepticism.

Did you know pigs can't look up?

SF - I'm sure you didn't realise; so didn't mean it in the wrong way...but just to let you know that Sim is one of our boys in blue...

Back to the topic - I refuse to waste words on climate change sceptics any more.

Dougan wrote: Back to the topic - I refuse to waste words on climate change sceptics any more.

Because your arguments are weak and "evidence" sketchy at best?

Demonic69 wrote:

Dougan wrote: Back to the topic - I refuse to waste words on climate change sceptics any more.

Because your arguments are weak and "evidence" sketchy at best?

Are you talking about climate change or the lead issue?

Outside of wetlands I've not seen compelling, unbiased evidence to support either, though I'd gladly be educated