Apparently a few can have what is in the photo but as the number owned shows they are difficult to get. A civilian won't be just getting one on his FAC.
Roughly 2,500 individuals in Sweden have licenses to own a submachine gun (kulsprutepistol).
According to the Swedish Shooting Sport Association (Svenska skyttesportförbundet), most of the licence holders are members of the Home National Guard or members of the military who engage in shooting competitions in their spare time.
And no new licenses are being issued. The fact that Swedish championships in submachine guns exist is a holdover from the Armed Forces. It's the only category we have that's automatic, and it's on its way out,"
christel wrote:This is the chap to blame for the current Neanderthal gun laws in Australia.
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Him and all the other politicians who jumped on the wagon of banning everything after the Port Arthur killings.
I would love to ask him face to face who was behind Port Arthur.
Even though I do not wholly agree with the UK gun laws at least it is better here despite the knee jerk reactions in the past after various gun mass killings.
I had a good chat with my wifes cousin last weekend who is over from Hobart at the moment with his family. He is under no illusion that it was a total stitch up at Port Arthur and could not have been done by Bryant alone-there are so many things that dont add up. Wifes cousin is a Baptist minister as well!
Grahamcs wrote:Our laws are fine as long as they stay as they are.
Glad YOU think so, I'm personally still unhappy about the loss of most of my guns in the SLR & pistol bans.
BOTH measures (to reduce armed crime) made ZERO difference to ANY armed crime (for the positive)
Grahamcs wrote:I'll be honest I don't really care about semi auto on centre fire. It costs too much and is not great for shot placement as the OP says
How is it not great for "shot placement" as a semi auto?
Which models have you used on a regular basis to make this assumption?
Grahamcs wrote:However, I think it would be nice to just press a button on an AR style rifle between shots instead of having to use a side charger.
So, er...an AR side lcharger or bolt release IS ok as a design, but an AR semi-auto version suddenly becomes inaccurate for "shot placement"?
The best "button" I used to press between shots on my AR15A2, was the trigger...no other movement needed, no loss of sight picture, no problems...and GREAT for "shot placement"
Grahamcs wrote:bolts are quite relaxing to use as well in my humble opinion
Never shot many mad-minutes have you?
Saddler I am in absolute agreement with every thing you have said. Some guys just don't appreciate what has been stolen away from us. sign01
Grahamcs wrote:Our laws are fine as long as they stay as they are.
Glad YOU think so, I'm personally still unhappy about the loss of most of my guns in the SLR & pistol bans.
BOTH measures (to reduce armed crime) made ZERO difference to ANY armed crime (for the positive)
Grahamcs wrote:I'll be honest I don't really care about semi auto on centre fire. It costs too much and is not great for shot placement as the OP says
How is it not great for "shot placement" as a semi auto?
Which models have you used on a regular basis to make this assumption?
Grahamcs wrote:However, I think it would be nice to just press a button on an AR style rifle between shots instead of having to use a side charger.
So, er...an AR side charger or bolt release IS ok as a design, but an AR semi-auto version suddenly becomes inaccurate for "shot placement"?
The best "button" I used to press between shots on my AR15A2, was the trigger... no other movement needed, no loss of sight picture, no problems... and GREAT for "shot placement"
Grahamcs wrote:bolts are quite relaxing to use as well in my humble opinion
Never shot many mad-minutes have you?
Saddler I am in absolute agreement with every thing you have said. Some guys just don't appreciate what has been stolen away from us. sign01
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Could not agree more! I'm actually disgusted that another FAC holder could hold such an opinion.
I've noticed there is a divide between those that lost centre fire semi-autos and pistols and the younger shooting generation that never had them. In the interest of breaking down barriers, can I ask why it disgusts you?
I will take a stab at why he's disgusted - the same reason I am utterly disgusted by the hunters here who say that they just can't understand why anybody would want an AR15 and don't care if they ban them because they are perfectly happy with a bolt-action.
The "I don't mind if they ban pistols (or semi-autos, or pumps, or what-have-you), because I don't have one" crowd - are a bunch of collaborators as far as I am concerned.
We, as shooters, can't seem to understand that we need to present a common front. It doesn't matter if you don't happen to have a particular type of firearm - you need to stand up and defend the shooters who do (or at the very least stop giving 'aid and comfort to the enemy' by saying that you don't care if they ban it). What we all need to keep in mind is that the anti-gun crowd are just like religious zealots - there's no satisfying them - EVER. Once they have successfully banned one type of gun, they will inevitably move on to trying to ban another type, and another, and another until there are no firearms left at all.
As Thomas Paine said: "If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately".
Very well put DaveB though I personally wouldn't decribe such persons as collaborators more like appeasers and we all know how that normally ends.
I can't remember who but some uses a byeline on the forum quoting Winston Spencer Churchill and it goes something like -
"So you have enemies - good, it shows that you have stood up for something at sometime in your life."
I am utterly disgusted by the hunters here who say that they just can't understand why anybody would want an AR15 and don't care if they ban them because they are perfectly happy with a bolt-action.
Well that certainly isn't me brother as there are more than a couple of both deer and coyotes that have fallen from a shot from one of my AR15's. They've been used for hunting on many an occasion and fine hunting rifles they are too.
Here's why the antis are gaining ground - yet shooters are STILL dumb enough to think that THEY are OK and that if they let some other type of firearm get taken away (usually because THEY don't like it or care about it) it will somehow be GOOD for the future? Dumb in the extreme to think like that!
