Mike Yardley's positiveshooting.com - Facebook

[joe]

all rights (most of them) etc that even the americans copied from us come from the bill of rights act ! it even bans cruel and unusual punishments now where does that sentence ring bell

i wounder if yardley thinks that clause is also oudated

[Fedaykin]

I notice that only weeks after making some rather insulting and unfounded comments about shooters of modern sporting rifles, Mr Yardley literally sprang to the defence of trophy hunters like a Thomson Gazelle after Jeremy Vine made some rather inflammatory comments when Mr Yardley's chosen shooting activities were brought under the spotlight today after the killing of Cecil the Lion.

He's currently receiving accolades from his sycophants on his FB page after standing up in defence of his sport when it came under criticism. Very noble of him.

Funny how things work out when you decide to launch unfounded criticism of others, and a couple of weeks later find yourself on the receiving end of sweeping generalisations, criticism and buzzwords such as "sniper", "canned hunt" and other nasty buzzwords.

I listened to him as well on the Vine show and I was left rafter bemused. To lay my cards on the table I am pro hunting including big game hunting and Whaling for that matter but the latter is a story for another day.

In respect of Big Game if it is for species management or preservation then I have no problem, I also have no problem if wealthy types pay for the pleasure as long as it is properly supervised. A case in hand the recently shot Rhino that hit the news which caused a similar media storm was part of that country's Rhino preservation program. He was one of four Rhino that was going to be shot by that country's game service to help preserve the species anyway. He was no longer sexually viable but could still cause harm to younger bulls. With numbers of sexually viable male Rhino being so low it is in the interest of the species to kill those older bulls that can no longer mate so they don't accidently harm or kill viable ones. It was decided to make some money from this that could be plowed back into the preservation program by auctioning off the hunting license. The American that won was supervised at all times by a team from the wildlife service to ensure he killed one of the correct bulls and a highly experienced South African Safari big game hunter was employed to not alone advise but supervise and if necessary take the kill if the American hunter was not up to it. The bull was shot, money was plowed back into the preservation program and the long term survival of the species enhanced by ensuring viable bulls could mate....

Unfortunately the trial by social media kicked off led by Ricky Gervais etc further poisoning the well of public opinion.

The recent Lion hunt is another matter, frankly the American hunter is rather cavalier in his practices assuming that his "Permit" was above board and at no time raising any questions as to the rather odd way his guides were helping him trying to lure an animal out of a Game sanctuary. He was also Bowhunting which IMHO an unacceptable method for larger game let alone a big cat. To be fair Mike Yardley did at least point out that what this idiot of a dentist was doing was wrong on multiple levels but he barely mentioned species management or preservation which rather surprised me. Instead he started talking about being close to nature etc which frankly is a rather narcissistic line to take. Another thing he came out as being against any form of "Canned hunt"...errrr hang on there Mike is Game Bird shooting not "Canned hunting"? Those Game Birds are raised with the sole intention of hunting them.

At least be consistent in your criticisms Mike!

[Sixshot6]

I notice that only weeks after making some rather insulting and unfounded comments about shooters of modern sporting rifles, Mr Yardley literally sprang to the defence of trophy hunters like a Thomson Gazelle after Jeremy Vine made some rather inflammatory comments when Mr Yardley's chosen shooting activities were brought under the spotlight today after the killing of Cecil the Lion.

He's currently receiving accolades from his sycophants on his FB page after standing up in defence of his sport when it came under criticism. Very noble of him.

Funny how things work out when you decide to launch unfounded criticism of others, and a couple of weeks later find yourself on the receiving end of sweeping generalisations, criticism and buzzwords such as "sniper", "canned hunt" and other nasty buzzwords.

I listened to him as well on the Vine show and I was left rafter bemused. To lay my cards on the table I am pro hunting including big game hunting and Whaling for that matter but the latter is a story for another day.

In respect of Big Game if it is for species management or preservation then I have no problem, I also have no problem if wealthy types pay for the pleasure as long as it is properly supervised. A case in hand the recently shot Rhino that hit the news which caused a similar media storm was part of that country's Rhino preservation program. He was one of four Rhino that was going to be shot by that country's game service to help preserve the species anyway. He was no longer sexually viable but could still cause harm to younger bulls. With numbers of sexually viable male Rhino being so low it is in the interest of the species to kill those older bulls that can no longer mate so they don't accidently harm or kill viable ones. It was decided to make some money from this that could be plowed back into the preservation program by auctioning off the hunting license. The American that won was supervised at all times by a team from the wildlife service to ensure he killed one of the correct bulls and a highly experienced South African Safari big game hunter was employed to not alone advise but supervise and if necessary take the kill if the American hunter was not up to it. The bull was shot, money was plowed back into the preservation program and the long term survival of the species enhanced by ensuring viable bulls could mate....

Unfortunately the trial by social media kicked off led by Ricky Gervais etc further poisoning the well of public opinion.

The recent Lion hunt is another matter, frankly the American hunter is rather cavalier in his practices assuming that his "Permit" was above board and at no time raising any questions as to the rather odd way his guides were helping him trying to lure an animal out of a Game sanctuary. He was also Bowhunting which IMHO an unacceptable method for larger game let alone a big cat. To be fair Mike Yardley did at least point out that what this idiot of a dentist was doing was wrong on multiple levels but he barely mentioned species management or preservation which rather surprised me. Instead he started talking about being close to nature etc which frankly is a rather narcissistic line to take. Another thing he came out as being against any form of "Canned hunt"...errrr hang on there Mike is Game Bird shooting not "Canned hunting"? Those Game Birds are raised with the sole intention of hunting them.

At least be consistent in your criticisms Mike!

With the situation in Zimbabwe Fedyakin... I'd be wary of doing anything like that there even with the government's go ahead. I kinda put two and two together when I heard a similar thing with elephants that the Zimbabwe government had kept the tusks and with the Links old Muggers has with the Chinese and North Koreans plus some people from there viewing tusks as a aphrodisiac made me wonder if some behind the scenes trade was going on? In essence don't be part of something you have the slightest inkling is not 100% kosher.

[Fedaykin]

I bet he'd also think Magna Carta outdated too then? Or the concept of Habeus Corpus? What a prick he is at that.

Actually he would be right if he thought the Magna Carta is outdated. It is.

Whilst it did explore wider political reform it only applied to the King, Barons and the Church. It was superseded by the 1297 Magna Carta which introduced a number of clauses which later all but sections 1 (freedom of the church), 9 (freedom of the City of London) and 29 (right to due process) had been repealed or superseded.

A springboards a springboard though Fedaykin. Right to due process is certainly not outdated is what I meant to say. I wouldn't mind be a freeman of london and being able to herd Geese, just to see how people would react.

Oh I agree it is certainly a Springboard and Clause 39 of Magna Carta the progenitor of "Due process in the law" still has relevance to this day:

"No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land."

Nevertheless people do have far grander and often incorrect assumptions of what Magna Carta is and was. I herd my Guess down Oxford street all the time when I am in London....

[Sixshot6]

I bet he'd also think Magna Carta outdated too then? Or the concept of Habeus Corpus? What a prick he is at that.

A springboards a springboard though Fedaykin. Right to due process is certainly not outdated is what I meant to say. I wouldn't mind be a freeman of london and being able to herd Geese, just to see how people would react.

Oh I agree it is certainly a Springboard and Clause 39 of Magna Carta the progenitor of "Due process in the law" still has relevance to this day:

"No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land."

Nevertheless people do have far grander and often incorrect assumptions of what Magna Carta is and was. I herd my Guess down Oxford street all the time when I am in London....

That one sentence is what set us apart from the French and Germans. Now you'd probably have to make the geese were nappies for H&S (good luck with getting the nappies on, they are nasty buggers). One of the weirdest internet pictures I saw recently along these lines was cow dressed in pajamas ? You'd probably also have to get little leather booties for the geese too. And when they're at the end, Christmas dinner and fat to cook roast tatties in.

[Fedaykin]

I notice that only weeks after making some rather insulting and unfounded comments about shooters of modern sporting rifles, Mr Yardley literally sprang to the defence of trophy hunters like a Thomson Gazelle after Jeremy Vine made some rather inflammatory comments when Mr Yardley's chosen shooting activities were brought under the spotlight today after the killing of Cecil the Lion.

He's currently receiving accolades from his sycophants on his FB page after standing up in defence of his sport when it came under criticism. Very noble of him.

Funny how things work out when you decide to launch unfounded criticism of others, and a couple of weeks later find yourself on the receiving end of sweeping generalisations, criticism and buzzwords such as "sniper", "canned hunt" and other nasty buzzwords.

I listened to him as well on the Vine show and I was left rafter bemused. To lay my cards on the table I am pro hunting including big game hunting and Whaling for that matter but the latter is a story for another day.

In respect of Big Game if it is for species management or preservation then I have no problem, I also have no problem if wealthy types pay for the pleasure as long as it is properly supervised. A case in hand the recently shot Rhino that hit the news which caused a similar media storm was part of that country's Rhino preservation program. He was one of four Rhino that was going to be shot by that country's game service to help preserve the species anyway. He was no longer sexually viable but could still cause harm to younger bulls. With numbers of sexually viable male Rhino being so low it is in the interest of the species to kill those older bulls that can no longer mate so they don't accidently harm or kill viable ones. It was decided to make some money from this that could be plowed back into the preservation program by auctioning off the hunting license. The American that won was supervised at all times by a team from the wildlife service to ensure he killed one of the correct bulls and a highly experienced South African Safari big game hunter was employed to not alone advise but supervise and if necessary take the kill if the American hunter was not up to it. The bull was shot, money was plowed back into the preservation program and the long term survival of the species enhanced by ensuring viable bulls could mate....

Unfortunately the trial by social media kicked off led by Ricky Gervais etc further poisoning the well of public opinion.

The recent Lion hunt is another matter, frankly the American hunter is rather cavalier in his practices assuming that his "Permit" was above board and at no time raising any questions as to the rather odd way his guides were helping him trying to lure an animal out of a Game sanctuary. He was also Bowhunting which IMHO an unacceptable method for larger game let alone a big cat. To be fair Mike Yardley did at least point out that what this idiot of a dentist was doing was wrong on multiple levels but he barely mentioned species management or preservation which rather surprised me. Instead he started talking about being close to nature etc which frankly is a rather narcissistic line to take. Another thing he came out as being against any form of "Canned hunt"...errrr hang on there Mike is Game Bird shooting not "Canned hunting"? Those Game Birds are raised with the sole intention of hunting them.

At least be consistent in your criticisms Mike!

With the situation in Zimbabwe Fedyakin... I'd be wary of doing anything like that there even with the government's go ahead. I kinda put two and two together when I heard a similar thing with elephants that the Zimbabwe government had kept the tusks and with the Links old Muggers has with the Chinese and North Koreans plus some people from there viewing tusks as a aphrodisiac made me wonder if some behind the scenes trade was going on? In essence don't be part of something you have the slightest inkling is not 100% kosher.

Oh totally agree in respect of Zimbabwe, I have friends and colleagues from there. The corruption is rife so it would not be my choice for a Big Game hunt especially as I have no doubt any money you pay is more then likely lining the pocket of a Zanu PF member than being plowed back into preservation. Again I think the Dentist in the Cecil debacle has a highly cavalier attitude with little sign of good sense being shown from his past actions. Bow hunting big game! I don't care how good a shot he thinks he is (and he boasted much about that) I wouldn't hunt anything bigger than a Rabbit if I could legally do it here. For something like a big cat I want something that can cleanly do it in one shot with a follow up available if needed.

[Sixshot6]

Funny how things work out when you decide to launch unfounded criticism of others, and a couple of weeks later find yourself on the receiving end of sweeping generalisations, criticism and buzzwords such as "sniper", "canned hunt" and other nasty buzzwords.

I listened to him as well on the Vine show and I was left rafter bemused. To lay my cards on the table I am pro hunting including big game hunting and Whaling for that matter but the latter is a story for another day.

In respect of Big Game if it is for species management or preservation then I have no problem, I also have no problem if wealthy types pay for the pleasure as long as it is properly supervised. A case in hand the recently shot Rhino that hit the news which caused a similar media storm was part of that country's Rhino preservation program. He was one of four Rhino that was going to be shot by that country's game service to help preserve the species anyway. He was no longer sexually viable but could still cause harm to younger bulls. With numbers of sexually viable male Rhino being so low it is in the interest of the species to kill those older bulls that can no longer mate so they don't accidently harm or kill viable ones. It was decided to make some money from this that could be plowed back into the preservation program by auctioning off the hunting license. The American that won was supervised at all times by a team from the wildlife service to ensure he killed one of the correct bulls and a highly experienced South African Safari big game hunter was employed to not alone advise but supervise and if necessary take the kill if the American hunter was not up to it. The bull was shot, money was plowed back into the preservation program and the long term survival of the species enhanced by ensuring viable bulls could mate....

Unfortunately the trial by social media kicked off led by Ricky Gervais etc further poisoning the well of public opinion.

The recent Lion hunt is another matter, frankly the American hunter is rather cavalier in his practices assuming that his "Permit" was above board and at no time raising any questions as to the rather odd way his guides were helping him trying to lure an animal out of a Game sanctuary. He was also Bowhunting which IMHO an unacceptable method for larger game let alone a big cat. To be fair Mike Yardley did at least point out that what this idiot of a dentist was doing was wrong on multiple levels but he barely mentioned species management or preservation which rather surprised me. Instead he started talking about being close to nature etc which frankly is a rather narcissistic line to take. Another thing he came out as being against any form of "Canned hunt"...errrr hang on there Mike is Game Bird shooting not "Canned hunting"? Those Game Birds are raised with the sole intention of hunting them.

At least be consistent in your criticisms Mike!

With the situation in Zimbabwe Fedyakin... I'd be wary of doing anything like that there even with the government's go ahead. I kinda put two and two together when I heard a similar thing with elephants that the Zimbabwe government had kept the tusks and with the Links old Muggers has with the Chinese and North Koreans plus some people from there viewing tusks as a aphrodisiac made me wonder if some behind the scenes trade was going on? In essence don't be part of something you have the slightest inkling is not 100% kosher.

Oh totally agree in respect of Zimbabwe, I have friends and colleagues from there. The corruption is rife so it would not be my choice for a Big Game hunt especially as I have no doubt any money you pay is more then likely lining the pocket of a Zanu PF member than being plowed back into preservation. Again I think the Dentist in the Cecil debacle has a highly cavalier attitude with little sign of good sense being shown from his past actions. Bow hunting big game! I don't care how good a shot he thinks he is (and he boasted much about that) I wouldn't hunt anything bigger than a Rabbit if I could legally do it here. For something like a big cat I want something that can cleanly do it in one shot with a follow up available if needed.[/quote]

I'm in agreement with you there, I don't like the idea of lining some Zanu PF's pockets either. As as I said, no evidence, but it takes all of about two minutes putting together the pieces to realize that tusks from culled elephants are likely been smuggled also. I know bow hunting is something in the US and got some weird following after the Hunger games but for big game, no way. There is a reason we have rifles. I guess a fancy education doesn't stop you from going to a totally corrupt place and being surprises at the results of taking the word of very likely corrupt people, but the hubris before the fall is something.

[Outsider]

This. I've emailed my MP several times in the last few months and I've even received somewhat decent responses from him. I hate having to do this but honestly, this sort of action is what's now neccesary, not even to have any hope of reversing the law, but just to keep ahold of what we're clinging to right now.

I'd email my MP but its Ed Miliband, .

Just send him letters then. Hundreds of letters. To his office and his houses. Never stop sending the letters. Unlimited letters.

He's technically obliged to respond to every single one.

[saddler]

This. I've emailed my MP several times in the last few months and I've even received somewhat decent responses from him. I hate having to do this but honestly, this sort of action is what's now neccesary, not even to have any hope of reversing the law, but just to keep ahold of what we're clinging to right now.

I'd email my MP but its Ed Miliband, .

Just send him letters then. Hundreds of letters. To his office and his houses. Never stop sending the letters. Unlimited letters.

He's technically obliged to respond to every single one.

Do NOT send him mail that his insufficient postage on it!
In such cases the recipient has to pay the shortfall, plus a handling fee.

Not that I listen to my own advice, as I keep forgetting to not send the election propaganda from the SNP back to their local offices in unstamped envelopes! I also keep forgetting to delete their details from my address folder on the label printer, but I find that a professional looking envelope looks so much nicer.
My memory eh....!

(I hope the SSPCA & all the other muppets that generate junk mail to scatter the length of my drive & hallway also appreciate the efforts I put into helping them recycle their own redundant paperwork...)
Remember, it costs nothing to be nice to these people.

[breacher]

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Do NOT send him mail that his insufficient postage on it!
In such cases the recipient has to pay the shortfall, plus a handling fee.

.[/quote]



And claim the whole lot on expenses I guess ?