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joe wrote:If there is ban, maby the NRA could fund a high court action against the government under the bill of rights act ! The bill of rights only allows for regulation not for bans

They struggle to manage their finances well enough to run the Bisley Rifle Club so don't hold your breath on that kind of idea!

Fedaykin wrote:In respect of the flick knife question I stated a new definition was unnecessary the reason being I think the prohibition of Flick knives is an outmoded dated concept that should be dropped. The reason being there are plenty of other small knives available and the ban on Flick knives only serves to hinder collectors going about their legal business.

I went with the view that there are plenty of "disposable" kitchen knives available at pound shops etc that dont need opening and can be dumped at anypoint with no financial loss

Obiously, as a shooter who loves his sport - this is a worrying move to more ill-founded legislation.

However, what is really worrying me is the "offensive weapons" at home part..........

How many times in UK culture is the "privacy of ones home" lauded ? There are so many possessions illegal in public but permitted "in the privacy of ones home". Same goes for free speech. There are things one can say in public that will lead to arrest that are allowed "in the privacy of ones home". Same goes for certain behaviour.

And I think thats a good thing. I truely fear a Govt who wants to regulate what goes on "in the privacy of my home".

I think this concept is a slippery slope to a world where Police no longer need warrants as your home is just as much fair game as the public highway !!!

joe wrote:If there is ban, maby the NRA could fund a high court action against the government under the bill of rights act ! The bill of rights only allows for regulation not for bans

As they are a registered charity I very much doubt if they could legally do this .

MistAgain wrote:

joe wrote:If there is ban, maby the NRA could fund a high court action against the government under the bill of rights act ! The bill of rights only allows for regulation not for bans

As they are a registered charity I very much doubt if they could legally do this .

Section 5 is regulation.

breacher wrote:Obiously, as a shooter who loves his sport - this is a worrying move to more ill-founded legislation.

However, what is really worrying me is the "offensive weapons" at home part..........

How many times in UK culture is the "privacy of ones home" lauded ? There are so many possessions illegal in public but permitted "in the privacy of ones home". Same goes for free speech. There are things one can say in public that will lead to arrest that are allowed "in the privacy of ones home". Same goes for certain behaviour.

And I think thats a good thing. I truely fear a Govt who wants to regulate what goes on "in the privacy of my home".

I think this concept is a slippery slope to a world where Police no longer need warrants as your home is just as much fair game as the public highway !!!

They cant police the streets so i doubt they have the manpower to police your home .

Dellboy wrote:

breacher wrote:Obiously, as a shooter who loves his sport - this is a worrying move to more ill-founded legislation.

However, what is really worrying me is the "offensive weapons" at home part..........

How many times in UK culture is the "privacy of ones home" lauded ? There are so many possessions illegal in public but permitted "in the privacy of ones home". Same goes for free speech. There are things one can say in public that will lead to arrest that are allowed "in the privacy of ones home". Same goes for certain behaviour.

And I think thats a good thing. I truely fear a Govt who wants to regulate what goes on "in the privacy of my home".

I think this concept is a slippery slope to a world where Police no longer need warrants as your home is just as much fair game as the public highway !!!

They cant police the streets so i doubt they have the manpower to police your home .

I'm sure they would find the manpower if it came to invading homes. Council Stasi would get that power allocated to them just to add to the insult.

Dellboy wrote:

breacher wrote:Obiously, as a shooter who loves his sport - this is a worrying move to more ill-founded legislation.

However, what is really worrying me is the "offensive weapons" at home part..........

How many times in UK culture is the "privacy of ones home" lauded ? There are so many possessions illegal in public but permitted "in the privacy of ones home". Same goes for free speech. There are things one can say in public that will lead to arrest that are allowed "in the privacy of ones home". Same goes for certain behaviour.

And I think thats a good thing. I truely fear a Govt who wants to regulate what goes on "in the privacy of my home".

I think this concept is a slippery slope to a world where Police no longer need warrants as your home is just as much fair game as the public highway !!!

They cant police the streets so i doubt they have the manpower to police your home .

When it suits them they can. How many speed camera tickets have be "no further actioned" due to lack of manpower ?



Another thought...........

UK law defines offensive weapons as "made, adapted or intended".

So an innocent item IS an offensive item if you intend it for use as such.

Now in public if you are walking down the road with a baseball bat you will be questioned about it. If you say its for self defence you get nicked. If its for some sports practice you might get asked where the ball is etc.

Now imagine your FEO finds a baseball bat by your front door.................

Now while thinking about that - FAC revocations are the only time you get to use hearsay in crown court !

So what if your FEO states he believed your baseball bat was an intended offensive weapon - hearsay of course but you can see where it might all end up.

Ie - you having to account for private possessions held in your private home !!!!!!

breacher wrote:Completed the survey. Pretty much said that existing laws are working just fine.

I noticed they asked a question about their new flick knife definition. But I have not heard what this new definition will be ??

Looks like assisted openers that are opened by a thumb stud on the blade rather than a button on the handle.