No.4 Enfield problem - over pressure?

[ovenpaa]

What I would like to know is how do you proof a receiver on it's own? Do you have to attach a barrel, bolt, trigger etc and test fire and then pull it all apart again or is it a visual check?

Same goes for barrels, I have always though they had to be test fired to be proofed but is this really the case?

EDIT - This is why I am dreading the proof testing of the DK Krag we have.... :?

[dromia]

Why are you having the Krag proofed?

[Gaz]

What I would like to know is how do you proof a receiver on it's own? Do you have to attach a barrel, bolt, trigger etc and test fire and then pull it all apart again or is it a visual check?

The man at the proof house, he say yes. Apparently they have a set of slave components they assemble everything to and then pull it apart afterwards. Must be a nightmare headspacing a barrel just for the sake of two shots.

[Sandgroper]

Why are you having the Krag proofed?

I was thinking the same thing - why?

[ovenpaa]

Why are you having the Krag proofed?

Because it has no proof marks on it and is coming into the UK so my understanding is it will need proofing when we decide to shoot it.

Rearlugs posted this a while ago:

(From the Proof House notes)

"The importation of unproved arms into the United kingdom is subject to control. See Section122(4) of the 1868 Act, amended by the Act of 1978. Notification of importation has to be given to both Proof Houses within seven days and/or the arms have to be submitted to proof within twenty-eight days of arrival in this country. These regulations do not apply to small arms imported by any person for his own personal use while they remain his own property."

[Sandgroper]

Why are you having the Krag proofed?

Because it has no proof marks on it and is coming into the UK so my understanding is it will need proofing when we decide to shoot it.

Rearlugs posted this a while ago:

(From the Proof House notes)

"The importation of unproved arms into the United kingdom is subject to control. See Section122(4) of the 1868 Act, amended by the Act of 1978. Notification of importation has to be given to both Proof Houses within seven days and/or the arms have to be submitted to proof within twenty-eight days of arrival in this country. These regulations do not apply to small arms imported by any person for his own personal use while they remain his own property."

These regulations do not apply to small arms imported by any person for his own personal use while they remain his own property.

[ovenpaa]

Agreed however we do intend to shoot it at some point and my understanding is I need to have it proofed before I haul it down to the range. At this stage I do wonder how many unproofed and out of proof firearms are routinely shot every weekend.

[Sandgroper]

My understanding is that a firearm does not need to be proofed if you are not going to sell it, etc.

If you make, import or modify the firearm and you intend to sell it (exchange or similar), then it needs to be proofed - otherwise proof is not a requirement if you keep it for your own use.

I might be wrong but that's my take on it. :-P

http://gunproof.com/Proofing/proofing.html

The Proof Acts lay down that no small arm may be sold, exchanged or exported, exposed or kept for sale or exchange or pawned unless and until it has been fully proved and duly marked.

[dromia]

I concur with Grant on this, it only needs to be proofed if you are going to sell it.

Consider obsolete calibre rifles like the 577/450 Martinis that are routinely put on ticket to shoot and then taken off, they are not sent to the proof house first.

[Gaz]

Update: took the rifle into Fultons and showed them the fired cases. Once I'd convinced the guy that I was talking about the bulges and not just the usual post-firing marks, he said: "Oh. I've never seen anything like that before," and "New barrel."

Problem solved - didn't even have to haggle!