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tikkathreebarrels wrote:I still wonder if a SWiNG might form the basis of an F Classer but then I read somewhere - 'net nonsense possibly - that the RPA which is a kind of child of SWiNG isn't that suited to F Class because the number of bolt lugs cause a stiffness in bolt locking which can disturb the position of the rifle on a front rest.

I own one of each. I would have thought it would be the other way round. The SwIng bolt is quite stiff to open - certainly the most force I've known on any type of rifle. The RPA opens with two fingers.

Iain

Look down the the line at any F-Class Comp and you will see quite a few RPAs as well as the odd Swing and Paramount. RPAs are one of the easiest opening actions out there. The number of bolt lugs has nothing to do with the so called stiff bolt opening. Some Swings and Paramounts do suffer from being hard to open because some were manufactured with little if any primary extraction. The paramount and swings often have no primary extraction because the cam on the bolt handle does not meet up with the cam in the bolt cut out. Does not stop them being competitive rifles though. I'll be using my Paramount this year in F/TR and have no worries about 'stiff' opening.

Steve

With a reasonable bipod on an F/TR rifle I would not have thought bolt lift would be an issue and the rifle is going to hop a bit and disturb the position of the rifle anyway.

I think such a rifle would make an excellent and ethically pure F/TR rifle.

I have two Swings, one I can open with one finger, the other is a right #######

Guys,

Thanks to Hauptman I have been able to add some nice pictures of a Swing Mark 4 to my Wikipedia article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_rifles. As always if you can help with pictures of the other marks I'd be very grateful.

Watcher

Nice one Watcher - those pictures are much better than any I could have done of mine...and the original stock too

Dougan wrote:Nice one Watcher - those pictures are much better than any I could have done of mine...and the original stock too

Just a bit of software trickery. I do appreciate your offering as well though.

The pictures make a big difference, it gave me the chance to have a close look at the Action and Bolt which was handy and informative

I have a Mk 3 that does not have a cast action and does have the seperate bolt handle. I've also seen one marked "Swing Scotland" from the short time George was there.

andrewh wrote:I have a Mk 3 that does not have a cast action and does have the seperate bolt handle. I've also seen one marked "Swing Scotland" from the short time George was there.

I'd really appreciate some photos of the Mark 3 Andrew; if you have the time.