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Re: Air Rifles Now Need Licenses In Scotland

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:49 pm
by Ginger
Pm in bound

Re: Air Rifles Now Need Licenses In Scotland

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:57 pm
by Sandgroper
DW58 wrote:I can't see how Police Scotland can possibly cope with the additional burden of air-weapon (OK Gritsnuffler?) licensing when they can't cope with the current routine renewals/variations.
WTF are you on?

FFS, as I said in this thread http://www.full-bore.co.uk/viewtopic.ph ... on#p256024 it was Saddler and not me who highlighted the way the legislation classifies airguns as airweapons.

wallhead

Re: Air Rifles Now Need Licenses In Scotland

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:08 pm
by DW58
Sandgroper wrote:
DW58 wrote:I can't see how Police Scotland can possibly cope with the additional burden of air-weapon (OK Gritsnuffler?) licensing when they can't cope with the current routine renewals/variations.
WTF are you on?

FFS, as I said in this thread http://www.full-bore.co.uk/viewtopic.ph ... on#p256024 it was Saddler and not me who highlighted the way the legislation classifies airguns as airweapons.

wallhead
You just don't get it do you?

I'm extracting the wee-wee pure and simple.

Re: Air Rifles Now Need Licenses In Scotland

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:31 pm
by Sandgroper
DW58 wrote:
Sandgroper wrote:
DW58 wrote:I can't see how Police Scotland can possibly cope with the additional burden of air-weapon (OK Gritsnuffler?) licensing when they can't cope with the current routine renewals/variations.
WTF are you on?

FFS, as I said in this thread http://www.full-bore.co.uk/viewtopic.ph ... on#p256024 it was Saddler and not me who highlighted the way the legislation classifies airguns as airweapons.

wallhead
You just don't get it do you?

I'm extracting the wee-wee pure and simple.
No I don't get it. I do not find it amusing in any way shape or form to be misquoted or having another persons quote attributed to me.

If you can't quote properly, then don't do it at all.

Re: Air Rifles Now Need Licenses In Scotland

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:40 pm
by dromia
Let us leave it there now gentlemen.

Re: Air Rifles Now Need Licenses In Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:47 am
by Gaz
I think we lost that particular battle when we allowed the term "airgun" to morph into "air weapon".

Language matters. If your FEO talks about "weapons", challenge him immediately and correct him.

Re: Air Rifles Now Need Licenses In Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:37 pm
by DaveFirearmsUK
The Bill of Rights/Claim of right argument has resurfaced apparently it comes into conflict with this and other acts. I've emailed a chap at the Scottish Parliament for clarification. I'll also be contacting my MSP.

If true and a legal case could be brought it could well set a precedent for having other Firearms laws changed for the better.

Re: Air Rifles Now Need Licenses In Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:54 pm
by 25Pdr
As I've mentioned before, there is a strong rumor that all the Handguns stolen from us are still stored in a particular Police building in Glasgow in case they have to give them back.

Re: Air Rifles Now Need Licenses In Scotland

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:21 am
by Andy632
25Pdr wrote:As I've mentioned before, there is a strong rumor that all the Handguns stolen from us are still stored in a particular Police building in Glasgow in case they have to give them back.

Bggr, all mine were made inoperable! :oops:

Re: Air Rifles Now Need Licenses In Scotland

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:20 am
by Laurie
As for "losing" them, considering the authorities have zero idea who owns any air rifles up here in Scotland it is more a case of the "Law abiding" coming forward to say they own one. The vast majority of estate chavs will either not bother or dump them, the latter ironically increasing the risk of ne'er do wells or random children finding them and putting them to ill use. The law abiding will either give them up in an amnesty or register them. [Fedaykin]
After the Hungerford changes (1988 Act?) which moved most existing pump and semi-auto shotguns from S2 to S1, a large number simply dropped off the radar. Colin Greenwood did an exercise after the event which compared figures of imports into the UK over previous years against the total converted / reproofed to two-cartridge magazine capacity or moved onto S1 FAC ownership and there was a huge shortfall. Nobody knows where they are, who owns them or how many ended up neing sold cheap in pub car parks after dark and ending up in criminal hands.