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Re: .38/.357 underlever recommendations
Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 5:03 pm
by Sim G
zanes wrote:
Unfortunately, much as I would like to get an Uberti in 44-40 (probably an 1860), it falls on the wrong side of the pistol-versus-rifle calibre* debate at the range I do most of my GR shooting at nowadays. So I'll probably end up with an 1866 in .38 special
I thought this sort of "argument" was put to bed several years ago with the NRA? Something along the lines of if "able to be chambered in standard sized pistols and revolvers, 19th century rifle rounds fall in the gallery category"...
And if it's a local range thing, someone needs a large doze of STFU!
Re: .38/.357 underlever recommendations
Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 5:17 pm
by zanes
Sim G wrote:zanes wrote:
Unfortunately, much as I would like to get an Uberti in 44-40 (probably an 1860), it falls on the wrong side of the pistol-versus-rifle calibre* debate at the range I do most of my GR shooting at nowadays. So I'll probably end up with an 1866 in .38 special
I thought this sort of "argument" was put to bed several years ago with the NRA? Something along the lines of if "able to be chambered in standard sized pistols and revolvers, 19th century rifle rounds fall in the gallery category"...
And if it's a local range thing, someone needs a large doze of STFU!
Personally, I find this whole "pistol calibre range" thing a sack of s***- IMHO it's either inside or outside the range energy/velocity limits.
There's quite a lot of backstory to this (and other issues) at this range.
Re: .38/.357 underlever recommendations
Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 5:25 pm
by Sim G
No doubt administered by a committee of, shall we say, "advancing years"....?
Re: .38/.357 underlever recommendations
Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 5:29 pm
by dromia
zanes wrote:
Personally, I find this whole "pistol calibre range" thing a sack of s*** IMHO it's either inside or outside the range energy/velocity limits.
Absolutely correct!
Re: .38/.357 underlever recommendations
Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 6:39 pm
by redcat
Check out the Armi Sport (Chiappa) 1892 distributed by Edgar Brothers. A more accurate copy of the Winchester than Rossi and slick as a whistle out of the box.
Redcat
Re: .38/.357 underlever recommendations
Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 7:16 pm
by Demonic69
My range simplifies it with "pistol calibre" but the limits are 2000ft/sec and 350ft/lb. You can down-load but need a committee member to chrono you.
At least with .38spl it's pretty cheap
Re: .38/.357 underlever recommendations
Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 8:09 pm
by GeeRam
lapua338 wrote: If money was no object I'd build a competition spec 1873 with parts from Pioneer Gun Works.
Likewise clapclap
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Re: .38/.357 underlever recommendations
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 9:19 pm
by redcat
.44/40 is classed as a pistol calibre. Although initially introduced with the Winchester 1873 rifle it was subsequently adopted by Colt in their Single Action Army revolver along with its two smaller siblings the .38/40 and .32/20. It is still offered today in the Colt and its many clones. Mild loads in a 24" barrel rifle will generate around 1,000fps.
Redcat
Re: .38/.357 underlever recommendations
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:06 am
by zanes
As a closing post to this issue, I asked the question about .44-40 again.
Got the OK, and an indication that people are trying to push towards "any calibre under the range limit". Looking like chrono testing is coming in as well.
Currently in negotiations to get a deposit down on an 1873 Uberti in .44-40
Re: .38/.357 underlever recommendations
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:20 am
by dromia
zanes wrote:As a closing post to this issue, I asked the question about .44-40 again.
Got the OK, and an indication that people are trying to push towards "any calibre under the range limit". Looking like chrono testing is coming in as well.
Currently in negotiations to get a deposit down on an 1873 Uberti in .44-40
Looks like your club is becoming mature, adult and sensible.
