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Re: SA80/L85 Butt pad, a question for those who have served

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:25 am
by zanes
Tower75 wrote:Wait, civvies can own L98s?
I seem to remember it's a convoluted story (that's slightly suspect, IMHO) about a school CCF that somehow ended up actually owning their L98s and these are the ones that appear on the open market.

Since the L98 went to the A2 (semi auto) version they're probably the only ones that'll ever come on the market. Hence the bonkers prices.

Re: SA80/L85 Butt pad, a question for those who have served

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:28 am
by Grahamcs
How much are they?

Re: SA80/L85 Butt pad, a question for those who have served

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:38 am
by Tower75
Quite excited of the prospect of straight-pull L85s being on the civvie market. I've always wanted one.

One can dream I guess.

Re: SA80/L85 Butt pad, a question for those who have served

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:45 am
by User702
NOOOOOOOO!!!! They are hateful things with appalling ergonomics. Just don't. Not even once.

Re: SA80/L85 Butt pad, a question for those who have served

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:57 am
by Tower75
User702 wrote:NOOOOOOOO!!!! They are hateful things with appalling ergonomics. Just don't. Not even once.
But, but, bullpup.

Re: SA80/L85 Butt pad, a question for those who have served

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:40 am
by snayperskaya
Tower75 wrote:
User702 wrote:NOOOOOOOO!!!! They are hateful things with appalling ergonomics. Just don't. Not even once.
But, but, bullpup.
I you fancy a bullpup I believe work is ongoing to bring in a straight pull version of the Russian SV-U, a bullpup version of the Dragunov in 7.62x54r

Re: SA80/L85 Butt pad, a question for those who have served

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:49 am
by Tower75
snayperskaya wrote:
Tower75 wrote:
User702 wrote:NOOOOOOOO!!!! They are hateful things with appalling ergonomics. Just don't. Not even once.
But, but, bullpup.
I you fancy a bullpup I believe work is ongoing to bring in a straight pull version of the Russian SV-U, a bullpup version of the Dragunov in 7.62x54r
Is there? Oooh :grin: bangbang

Re: SA80/L85 Butt pad, a question for those who have served

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:13 pm
by Grahamcs
Oh now that's a nice looking bullpup!

Aren't bullpup's flawed as a principle now though

The ergonomics don't cut it?

Just wondered.

Re: SA80/L85 Butt pad, a question for those who have served

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:30 pm
by Gundoc
Grahamcs wrote:Oh now that's a nice looking bullpup!

Aren't bullpup's flawed as a principle now though

The ergonomics don't cut it?

Just wondered.
Israel got the Tavor, we are keeping the SA80A2. The ergonomics aren't amazing, but they work.
And there is something to be said for a rifle that has a decent length barrel while being short overall

Re: SA80/L85 Butt pad, a question for those who have served

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:24 pm
by DW58
Gundoc wrote:
Grahamcs wrote:Oh now that's a nice looking bullpup!

Aren't bullpup's flawed as a principle now though

The ergonomics don't cut it?

Just wondered.
Israel got the Tavor, we are keeping the SA80A2. The ergonomics aren't amazing, but they work.
And there is something to be said for a rifle that has a decent length barrel while being short overall
Of course it all goes back to the EM-2 of the late forties/early fifties ... ... ...

Then there's the FAMAS, Steyr AUG, the Chinese AK-based thingy, several Bullpup sniper rifles and even Bullpup sporters - Crapahute, Sommer & Ockenfuß, Pfeiffer etc.