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Re: radio 2 next topic! £200 FAC cost
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:01 am
by phaedra1106
No, you now use the same form to apply for either an SGC or FAC (or both for a coterminous application).
Re: radio 2 next topic! £200 FAC cost
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:02 am
by Gaz
zanes wrote:Sandgroper wrote:After this topic was raised I wrote to Norman Baker/Home Office and this was the reply:
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In your e-mail you suggest having a single certificate for firearm and shotguns. As a certificate holder you will be interested to know that a single application form for firearm and shotgun certificates was introduced on 1 December 2013 and is available to download via police and shooting organisation websites.
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You also suggest in your e-mail that all section 1 firearms be re-categorised to section 2. The UK Government has always made it clear that controls on firearms should be targeted fairly and proportionately whilst striking a balance between securing public safety without bearing down unnecessarily on legitimate users. I can confirm that there are no plans to re-categorise the status of any weapons within the Firearms Act.
Make of it what you may...
Reading this I wonder if plans are to move S2 to S1?
Um. Did you miss the bit in bold?
Re: radio 2 next topic! £200 FAC cost
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:05 am
by TattooedGun
zanes wrote:Sandgroper wrote:After this topic was raised I wrote to Norman Baker/Home Office and this was the reply:
<snip>
In your e-mail you suggest having a single certificate for firearm and shotguns. As a certificate holder you will be interested to know that a single application form for firearm and shotgun certificates was introduced on 1 December 2013 and is available to download via police and shooting organisation websites.
<snip>
You also suggest in your e-mail that all section 1 firearms be re-categorised to section 2. The UK Government has always made it clear that controls on firearms should be targeted fairly and proportionately whilst striking a balance between securing public safety without bearing down unnecessarily on legitimate users. I can confirm that there are no plans to re-categorise the status of any weapons within the Firearms Act.
Make of it what you may...
Reading this I wonder if plans are to move S2 to S1?
Why would you wonder that...?
Re: radio 2 next topic! £200 FAC cost
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:14 am
by zanes
Gaz wrote:
Um. Did you miss the bit in bold?
I read it. I didn't trust it*.
*May have actually misread that bit in a hurry
Re: radio 2 next topic! £200 FAC cost
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:30 pm
by greenshoots
Thin end of a dangerous wedge, oomans. We agree with the running man and the fat rat: we pay for policing through taxation and do not benefit as individual shooters from the licence, hence it should scrapped. If we buy a fishing licence, the waterways are maintained for us. If we buy a TV Licence we are provided with entertainment (reportedly). The police provide nothing of benefit to us for the cost of our licence.
i must be getting old i actually agree with badger
greenshoots
Re: radio 2 next topic! £200 FAC cost
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 7:50 pm
by Sandgroper
greenshoots wrote:Thin end of a dangerous wedge, oomans. We agree with the running man and the fat rat: we pay for policing through taxation and do not benefit as individual shooters from the licence, hence it should scrapped. If we buy a fishing licence, the waterways are maintained for us. If we buy a TV Licence we are provided with entertainment (reportedly). The police provide nothing of benefit to us for the cost of our licence.
i must be getting old i actually agree with badger
greenshoots
Have either of you said this to the powers that be?
Re: radio 2 next topic! £200 FAC cost
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:15 pm
by Enfield Enthusiast
The BBC has become too, politically -correct, trendy & modern-thinking & these people are biased against our sport, because of it. The BBC of the 60s & 70s were more gun-tolerant. Same with old-school Labour supporters & politicians. Brian Clough, Harold Wilson, Tommy Docherty, Andy Grey, a certain Scottish Labour MP (Cant remember his name), etc all tolerated firearms to a certain degree.
Docherty was posing with a semi-automatic shotgun in a gotcha pose, in the 70s, whilst holding his colleague up at gun-point for a laugh. Nowdays the media would moan at him & demand he be sacked. This unnamed Labour MP I mentioned earlier, owned .22 pistol, that he carried on him, during his rallying, would you believe. That was a member of the Old Labour & later his rebranded party banned .22 handguns.
I want the old days to come back, even though I wasn't born when half of this was going on.
Re: radio 2 next topic! £200 FAC cost
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:19 pm
by Dark Skies
I'd like to go back to the good old days when you just popped into the Post Office and bought a firearms license. Massive time saving for the police and no cost to them. It's just a piece of paper to give the illusion of safety after all. Won't do doodly to protect them from criminals.
Re: radio 2 next topic! £200 FAC cost
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:23 pm
by Enfield Enthusiast
Dark Skies wrote:I'd like to go back to the good old days when you just popped into the Post Office and bought a firearms license. Massive time saving for the police and no cost to them. It's just a piece of paper to give the illusion of safety after all. Won't do doodly to protect them from criminals.
Wow... now that's nearly 50 years ago... pre 68'. Like it & yes how easy was it to get a shotgun then?