united states armed forces train for taking guns off us

[PaulR]

I don't see any connection at all between the title of the thread and the newspaper article. Most armies have training facilities to replicate urban environments as that is a common combat in this report the training area in this day and age. Where is the evidence that this has been built in order to remove firearms from civilians?

Most armies do indeed have training villages, towns etc....i myself trained at Bosnia village, and Imber, the areas them selves usually try to replicate the chosen combat destination of the training troops, In this training area it's a replication of small town America. So what does this tell you? Can you see why the theories are flying?

Like Quarter, I don't see the link.

Building this sort of simulated town has been going on for years here and in other countries. If they haven't built them, they've compulsorily seized them, village of Slapton for example for D Day Rehearsals.

All I see when I read that article and the description of the buildings is a collection of individual exercise scenarios. These may involve terrorists or other parties that would require clearing out. On a bigger scale it may involve a small town with a similar problem.

The buildings represented here aren't just 'small town USA' either, the make up pretty much represents lots of countries and cultures in the world.

There is of course an alternative scenario.......... zzzzom zzzzom zzzzom attack!

[the running man]

Small town America is still massive compared to small town anywhere else but Australia, which are similarly spaced out as the buildings are in the us....take beruit, very close buildings allowed ladders and catwalks to be strewn across buildings thus making the fluid combat situation one encounters in a built up area even more extremely hazardous for all combatants.....my point is small town America is not the same as everywhere else in the world....

i do however conceded that info wars etc have probably written too much into this story...........


And training for small time terrorist incursions or insurrections in said small towns can explain this away, but as it's not been done before one can accept why people's suspicions are being raised.....

[Chuck]

I suppose Boston was a dry run......numerous illegal searches and a whole town locked down, automatic fire sprayed around willy-nilly.... yep, training facility definitely needed.

[Ares590]

Am I also right about a story last year about the us buying tons and tons of expanding pistol ammo and check point barriers? All bought through mediocre government outfits like the national weather service, and the fishing licensing authority and the child immunisation group etc....so as not to be picked up buying it all....i think it was 3 pistol bullets for every us citizen. .... sign85

Another point,
All the ammunition wont be stored in one place, so it will be spread out amoung many DHS stations for use where it would be needed so they would need to go overboard, making sure they would have enough to deal with any threat.
so lets say they had 900million rounds scattered through 1000 DHS Stations or instillations. that's 900,000 per station, its a lot but not overwhelmingly much when you consider that Zeroing would need to be done with the ammo the use in combat, and that you would need to issue every Homeland security agent multiple rounds.

[HALODIN]

Why would the DHS need millions of rounds of hollow point ammo?

DHS won't explain its order of 450 million hollow point bullets - http://rt.com/usa/dhs-million-point-government-179

As of 2012 the US population was 313.9 million.

[the running man]

Am I also right about a story last year about the us buying tons and tons of expanding pistol ammo and check point barriers? All bought through mediocre government outfits like the national weather service, and the fishing licensing authority and the child immunisation group etc....so as not to be picked up buying it all....i think it was 3 pistol bullets for every us citizen. .... sign85

Another point,
All the ammunition wont be stored in one place, so it will be spread out amoung many DHS stations for use where it would be needed so they would need to go overboard, making sure they would have enough to deal with any threat.
so lets say they had 900million rounds scattered through 1000 DHS Stations or instillations. that's 900,000 per station, its a lot but not overwhelmingly much when you consider that Zeroing would need to be done with the ammo the use in combat, and that you would need to issue every Homeland security agent multiple rounds.

D.H.S. agents? Sounds like the S.S. to me..........

[the running man]

I suppose Boston was a dry run......numerous illegal searches and a whole town locked down, automatic fire sprayed around willy-nilly.... yep, training facility definitely needed.

There'sa video on you tube and Iinfo wars etc of a man who looks just like the dead Boston bomber being taken into custody.....explain that one.....

[HALODIN]

I personally think the US is buying ammo to stop it falling in to civilian hands and being used against them.

International law[edit]
The Hague Convention of 1899, Declaration III, prohibits the use of expanding bullets in international warfare.[14] This is often incorrectly believed to be prohibited by the Geneva Conventions, but it significantly predates those conventions, and is in fact a continuance of the Declaration of St Petersburg in 1868, which banned exploding projectiles of less than 400 grams.
Until relatively recently, the prohibition on the use of expanding bullets was only applicable to international armed conflicts. The International Committee of the Red Cross's customary international law study contends that customary law now prohibits their use in armed conflicts not of an international character.[15] The adoption of an amendment to Article 8 at the Review Conference of the Rome Statute in Kampala makes the use of expanding bullets in non-international armed conflict a war crime.[16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_ ... tional_law

[HALODIN]

I think this article amongst many others on the web raises some very valid points.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/ ... nversation

[the running man]

I personally think the US is buying ammo to stop it falling in to civilian hands and being used against them.

International law[edit]
The Hague Convention of 1899, Declaration III, prohibits the use of expanding bullets in international warfare.[14] This is often incorrectly believed to be prohibited by the Geneva Conventions, but it significantly predates those conventions, and is in fact a continuance of the Declaration of St Petersburg in 1868, which banned exploding projectiles of less than 400 grams.
Until relatively recently, the prohibition on the use of expanding bullets was only applicable to international armed conflicts. The International Committee of the Red Cross's customary international law study contends that customary law now prohibits their use in armed conflicts not of an international character.[15] The adoption of an amendment to Article 8 at the Review Conference of the Rome Statute in Kampala makes the use of expanding bullets in non-international armed conflict a war crime.[16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_ ... tional_law

I wouldent pay much attention to that, the yanks flout the Geneva convention when it suits them....They used napalm Iin Vietnam and the first gulf war (so i'm told)....besides that's a whole not her thread really.....