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Re: Is Short Siberia still open on the weekends?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:26 pm
by Ginger
Gaz wrote:
Ginger wrote:To be honest Dougan, I don't have the room in the car for that as well, it just seems a poor degradation in the services offered when you go facility with benches & under cover to having to order one. All this is pie in the sky because we have no information from the NRA (no surprise there), about what the future holds, i.e. benches or not.
So because you need to tick a box or write a sentence in the online booking form saying "bench required" if you're booking one of the new short range targets on Century, shooting from the first new firing points raised on that range since the construction of the Great Butt in the 1890s, that's a degradation in service?

Reading some of the posters on here I'm beginning to sympathise more and more with the NRA. And not only because they're now getting off their backsides to provide some decent facilities, at long last.

Gaz,

as per the NRA website you like to quote :


Range / Target Bookings
Online Range Bookings can now be made by Clubs, Schools, Associations and Official Teams. This site allows club officials to book targets, view the status of their booking requests and make adjustments.


As I said as an individual member of the NRA where do I full amongst them?

Re: Is Short Siberia still open on the weekends?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:30 pm
by Blu
not all of us have 4x4s or estate cars.
One doesn't? Gosh one should get one, they're really super don't you know yah. ;)

Blu :twisted:

Re: Is Short Siberia still open on the weekends?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:33 pm
by Ginger
Blu wrote:
not all of us have 4x4s or estate cars.
One doesn't? Gosh one should get one, they're really super don't you know yah. ;)

Blu :twisted:
Nah we dont all need them over here, most are just used off road in Tescos or Asda's car parks anyhow, except for the odd wannabe who does a bit of vermin control on the side ;)

Re: Is Short Siberia still open on the weekends?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:37 pm
by Dougan
Ginger wrote:
Dougan wrote:There were 2 gentlemen who shot the .22 long range competition from home made benches yesterday (on Butt 19 as it happens) - To be fair, one was a very sturdy contraption with scaffold poles for legs, and may not have fitted in some cars...but the other was a small and light conversion of a folding workbench; which was quite effective...he also brought what looked like an antique wooden child's dinning chair, to which he'd attached mud-feet...which he described as "deliberately esoteric" (Bisley eccentrics make me smile :grin: )

...the thing is, that you can't always have everything 'on a plate' for you, and have to make some effort yourself...

Dougan,

'everything on a plate'? so possibly removing a facility that is already there and not replacing it means I expect things on a plate?

As I said above 2 old shooters, rifles bags etc leaves for a full car, not all of us have 4x4s or estate cars.
Not being callous, but it sounds like you need a bigger car...

...and it needn't be an expensive 4 x 4 - my W reg Mondeo with over a 100 000 on the clock does the job.


Or - just call the range office...I'm sure if you explained that 3 of you need it, they would drop one off at the point for you...

Re: Is Short Siberia still open on the weekends?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:38 pm
by Ginger
Dougan wrote:
Ginger wrote:
Dougan wrote:There were 2 gentlemen who shot the .22 long range competition from home made benches yesterday (on Butt 19 as it happens) - To be fair, one was a very sturdy contraption with scaffold poles for legs, and may not have fitted in some cars...but the other was a small and light conversion of a folding workbench; which was quite effective...he also brought what looked like an antique wooden child's dinning chair, to which he'd attached mud-feet...which he described as "deliberately esoteric" (Bisley eccentrics make me smile :grin: )

...the thing is, that you can't always have everything 'on a plate' for you, and have to make some effort yourself...

Dougan,

'everything on a plate'? so possibly removing a facility that is already there and not replacing it means I expect things on a plate?

As I said above 2 old shooters, rifles bags etc leaves for a full car, not all of us have 4x4s or estate cars.
Not being callous, but it sounds like you need a bigger car...

...and it needn't be an expensive 4 x 4 - my W reg Mondeo with over a 100 000 on the clock does the job...
thing is a bigger motor just for trips to Bisley is a bit extravagant really. I would love a second larger car but funds don't allow, (Or parking permits either).

Re: Is Short Siberia still open on the weekends?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:46 pm
by Dougan
Ginger wrote:thing is a bigger motor just for trips to Bisley is a bit extravagant really. I would love a second larger car but funds don't allow, (Or parking permits either).
I'd like to have a smaller second car for going to work in...but like I say, you can't always have everything...

Re: Is Short Siberia still open on the weekends?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:53 pm
by Ginger
Dougan wrote:I'd like to have a smaller second car for going to work in...but like I say, you can't always have everything...
No you cannot, which with the 100yrds on Century, but did they think of disabled / lower mobility members? As I said earlier only time will tell as info is lacking.

Re: Is Short Siberia still open on the weekends?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:09 pm
by Dougan
Ginger, I do have sympathy for your situation; but the situation with SS being closed Monday to Thursday isn't going to change in the near future...

...try to see some of the positives - From what I saw yesterday, the work on Butt 19 is going well...the paths from the 300 car park to the firing points are now mud free, during the week you'll probably get a spot near the gate in the car park which makes access easy, I'm sure you could have a bench if you want one...and, although you are losing the covered 100 point, you are gaining electronic targets out to 300 yards...

Re: Is Short Siberia still open on the weekends?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:15 pm
by Ginger
Dougan wrote:Ginger, I do have sympathy for your situation; but the situation with SS being closed Monday to Thursday isn't going to change in the near future...

...try to see some of the positives - From what I saw yesterday, the work on Butt 19 is going well...the paths from the 300 car park to the firing points are now mud free, during the week you'll probably get a spot near the gate in the car park which makes access easy, I'm sure you could have a bench if you want one...and, although you are losing the covered 100 point, you are gaining electronic targets out to 300 yards...
Hi Dougan,

it is just Mondays to Thursdays? I havent' seen that documented hence I was asking all the questions, if SS is open FSS then fine. Again is lack of information on the NRA website.

Re: Is Short Siberia still open on the weekends?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:36 pm
by Dougan
Ginger wrote:
Dougan wrote:Ginger, I do have sympathy for your situation; but the situation with SS being closed Monday to Thursday isn't going to change in the near future...

...try to see some of the positives - From what I saw yesterday, the work on Butt 19 is going well...the paths from the 300 car park to the firing points are now mud free, during the week you'll probably get a spot near the gate in the car park which makes access easy, I'm sure you could have a bench if you want one...and, although you are losing the covered 100 point, you are gaining electronic targets out to 300 yards...
Hi Dougan,

it is just Mondays to Thursdays? I havent' seen that documented hence I was asking all the questions, if SS is open FSS then fine. Again is lack of information on the NRA website.
I think you have to call for Friday availability, but it is definately business as usual on Saturday and Sunday...and with clean toilets, and soon more parking.....you never know, the way things are going they may even sort out the swamp behind the 200 point...