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Exactly - the award for the most ridiculous dick waver and pontificator on this topic goes to Ordnance

Back it up , unlike some others show what I posted claiming anything regards the SA/80 regarding experience etc. Do you think its an unreasonable question to ask the person claiming its so good what they find so good about the rifle. seems a reasonable question to me. PS You know what they say it takes one to know one, your post proves that.

I have no understanding or experience of this subject, please forgive me and ignore anything that I've posted.

OK avoiding the question there is a surprise, why didn't you admit that at the start, better late than never explains a lot of your posts at least at last you are being honest.

Are there such things as Badger Walts, i.e. Oomans walting as Badgers?

Werebadgers ?

Ok time to put this to bed, the M4 is far superior to the L85 A2 because it looks so much cooler, pew, pew.

ordnance wrote:

Exactly - the award for the most ridiculous dick waver and pontificator on this topic goes to Ordnance

Back it up , unlike some others show what I posted claiming anything regards the SA/80 regarding experience etc. Do you think its an unreasonable question to ask the person claiming its so good what they find so good about the rifle. seems a reasonable question to me. PS You know what they say it takes one to know one, your post proves that.

Reliability - I've had stoppages with the A1, mostly magazine related because the radway green aluminium magazines were tonk, and a poor substitute for the colt mags the rifle was designed for.

I also had the bolt handle stoppage where the case bounced back into the ejection port.

The A2 - things got better, but I must have been issued a rifle with the mightiest return spring known to the REME because it was prone to short stroking.

I've had a rifle fail to chamber a round and had the 'dead man's click' fortunately on the ranges - unfortunately during a competition.

Things are constantly improving, I realise that the immediate action drill includes a lot of magazine related drills during the weapon handling tests. Issuing EMAGs will be a help I expect.

Someone told me last year what the pamphlet dictated people should clean the A2 at, I can't remember the exact number - but it was over a thousand rounds.

When the A2 was trialled there were tests conducted in Saudi that were written up in a military doctrine journal,and even with burying the rifle in sand, the instances of stoppages were very, very low.

Things are getting better all the time. But do remember - real men go belt fed!

DW58 wrote:Are there such things as Badger Walts, i.e. Oomans walting as Badgers?

Ah now this is something I know about, they call themselves Otherkin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otherkin

Five shades of creepy if you ask me

Airbrush wrote:Ok time to put this to bed, the M4 is far superior to the L85 A2 because it looks so much cooler, pew, pew.

Talk about tossing a grenade into the room

Fedaykin wrote:

Airbrush wrote:Ok time to put this to bed, the M4 is far superior to the L85 A2 because it looks so much cooler, pew, pew.

Talk about tossing a grenade into the room

Hey, did Seal Team 6 use the L85A2, I rest my case.

DL. wrote:
Things are getting better all the time. But do remember - real men go belt fed!

Belt fed now you are talking!

On a related matter, this is what I was talking about yesterday DW58. The new machine gun selected by the Danish Army as their GPMG the US Ordnance M60E6:

http://www.usord.com/weapons/m60e6

This video by Larry Vickers with US Ordnance shows the changes made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIIicHWwFQo

What it does show that guns with a reputation for general badness can be reworked into something better, which rather parallels with the SA80 experience.

Oh and for those inclined the Slo-Mo video is cool! A bit of machine gun porn...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTwyP2UUtFA