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Fedaykin wrote:You have summed up the whole SA80 issue perfectly SevenSixTwo, beyond all the technical and ergonomic debates British troops are happy to trust their lives with the rifle. It is serving well and the serious well reported and commented on trust issues of the 90's are long gone.

As i said earlier I have a hunch there will be a fair few troops who will wistfully talk about their L85 once it is retired in much the same vein as various old sorts have called for the SLR to come back over the years.

That's Nostalgia filter, like how my dad is convinced that Corgis are normally bigger dogs. I said Dad you were smaller.

DOGGER2UK wrote:It would appear that these rifles have performed well in international competitions.

http://www.rnrmra.org/Documents/AFSAM06PXR2.pdf

Interesting - that document confirms the credibility of contributor to this thread, I don't know about the others.

JohnMH I salute you Sir

Sixshot6 wrote:

Fedaykin wrote:You have summed up the whole SA80 issue perfectly SevenSixTwo, beyond all the technical and ergonomic debates British troops are happy to trust their lives with the rifle. It is serving well and the serious well reported and commented on trust issues of the 90's are long gone.

As i said earlier I have a hunch there will be a fair few troops who will wistfully talk about their L85 once it is retired in much the same vein as various old sorts have called for the SLR to come back over the years.

That's Nostalgia filter, like how my dad is convinced that Corgis are normally bigger dogs. I said Dad you were smaller.

Wagon wheels used to be massive.

Fedaykin wrote:I have a significant knowledge of the Kalashnikov and its origins yet I have never fired one on my life.

You're not missing anything, putting it kindly - they're agricultural. The L85A2 is a much more refined and pleasant to use rifle.

DOGGER2UK wrote:It would appear that these rifles have performed well in international competitions.

http://www.rnrmra.org/Documents/AFSAM06PXR2.pdf

Service personnel might find this link useful-
https://jive.defencegateway.mod.uk/grou ... p-training

BamBam wrote:

Sixshot6 wrote:

Fedaykin wrote:You have summed up the whole SA80 issue perfectly SevenSixTwo, beyond all the technical and ergonomic debates British troops are happy to trust their lives with the rifle. It is serving well and the serious well reported and commented on trust issues of the 90's are long gone.

As i said earlier I have a hunch there will be a fair few troops who will wistfully talk about their L85 once it is retired in much the same vein as various old sorts have called for the SLR to come back over the years.

That's Nostalgia filter, like how my dad is convinced that Corgis are normally bigger dogs. I said Dad you were smaller.

Wagon wheels used to be massive.

Makes a change from Easter eggs and packets of Walkers. Next thing you'll tell me is Gary Lineker had smaller ears

Sixshot6 wrote: Next thing you'll tell me is Gary Lineker had smaller ears

Can't say, I only knew of his existence about 10 years ago.

For the record, I'd trust my life to the L85A2 over anything else.

Why. ? Have you shot and evaluated all other military rifles.

I've shot all of the last Century's and this Century's British Service Rifles and the best by far is the L85A2, but that is only my opinion

So its better than a lee Enfield rifle that's useful. That statement just shows your lack of insight , how can you compare The SA/80 with the SLR for example different calibre semi auto only British version. The Lee Enfield again different calibre and bolt action. Are you saying the 5.56 mm is more effective than the 7.62 mm or .303.

Jesus H Christ, what a ridiculous dick waving contest this has become - with one or two exceptions, a gathering of learnt from the internet.
Chairborne Commandos spouting forth the facts and fallacies they've
For crying out loud, give it a rest, it's getting very tedious

If that's the case, I have an idea don't read the thread.

Very true.

How do you know he is not talking about you .

Chairborne Commandos spouting forth the facts and fallacies

DL. wrote:

Fedaykin wrote:I have a significant knowledge of the Kalashnikov and its origins yet I have never fired one on my life.

You're not missing anything, putting it kindly - they're agricultural. The L85A2 is a much more refined and pleasant to use rifle.

.223 AK variants are pleasant to shoot, try a Galil or a Valmet.

ordnance wrote: How do you know he is not talking about you .

Why not ask him, I suspect he probably means you.