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Some more info on this Shotgun....$1,500 not too bad a price.......I'd need something like this for Olympic Trap, have you seen the bloody speed of these Clays? :lol: :lol:

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Blackstuff wrote:

techguy wrote:
Now you're talking!

Actually, screw that, i'll have it on my FAC with 18" barrels

Ah, now can you help with with this question that has boggled my mind for years!

I have a section 1 shotty and I know someone who has a S1 shotgun with a 20" barrel. Now it is my understanding that to own a S1 shotgun with a barrel under 24" you need a "specially tailored FAC" is this true?

Always wanted a short shotgun. The law to my knowledge is that under the 1988 legislation 24" barrell was the minimum for a SGC, but it mentioned nothing under FAC, all I read was prohibiting "short shotguns" but I can't find anything like barrel size that refers to FAC shotguns...

Can you bear some light on this?

ashhow wrote:

Blackstuff wrote:

techguy wrote:
Now you're talking!

Actually, screw that, i'll have it on my FAC with 18" barrels

Ah, now can you help with with this question that has boggled my mind for years!

I have a section 1 shotty and I know someone who has a S1 shotgun with a 20" barrel. Now it is my understanding that to own a S1 shotgun with a barrel under 24" you need a "specially tailored FAC" is this true?

Always wanted a short shotgun. The law to my knowledge is that under the 1988 legislation 24" barrell was the minimum for a SGC, but it mentioned nothing under FAC, all I read was prohibiting "short shotguns" but I can't find anything like barrel size that refers to FAC shotguns...

Can you bear some light on this?

It's my understanding that you can have any action type shotgun apart from a semi-auto and pump-action i.e. O/U SbS, lever-action, with a short barrel as a Section 1 gun, but it must still conform to the 'not-a-pistol' length restrictions, i.e. the barrel must be at least 30cm and the overall size must be at least 60cm. A common type of gun would be a 'coach gun' SbS which is used for Cowboy Action Shooting or End Of Trail shooting.

A semi or pump with a barrel less than 24" would be a Section 5 prohibited firearm that you need permission from the Secretary of State to own.

Yeah I know you can keep lever guns and side-by-side and over-under shotguns on your FAC as if they were rifles, however the one I am refering to is actually a pump action!!

Read somewhere on this forum and it was 1997 which prohibited short-shotguns on FAC's. I know the guy in question does not have a section 5, he said his certificate was specially taiolored as his FEO said he could have it on his FAC because it's a trench gun and historic. However can you actually get section 5 firearms put on a section 1 lisence? Is it similat to how section 7.2&3 and section 3 guns are put on lisences?

Or is this shotgun from post-1988 and he never handed it in (weren't registered).

3 barrels? Not enough shots between reloading

Seen a MUCH better new toy for the Xmas list...



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ashhow wrote:Yeah I know you can keep lever guns and side-by-side and over-under shotguns on your FAC as if they were rifles, however the one I am refering to is actually a pump action!!

Read somewhere on this forum and it was 1997 which prohibited short-shotguns on FAC's. I know the guy in question does not have a section 5, he said his certificate was specially taiolored as his FEO said he could have it on his FAC because it's a trench gun and historic. However can you actually get section 5 firearms put on a section 1 lisence? Is it similat to how section 7.2&3 and section 3 guns are put on lisences?

Or is this shotgun from post-1988 and he never handed it in (weren't registered).

Seems weird why he would be exempt as it begin a 'historical piece' when 2 re-enactors I knew bought an original working Trench Gun but were still force to weld on a barrel extension, thought they would have a better 'genuine reason'

ashhow wrote:I have a section 1 shotty and I know someone who has a S1 shotgun with a 20" barrel.

I have a couple of S.1 shotguns, both pump action.
You may know someone with a 20" barreled Section 1 shotgun, as long as it is NEITHER a pump or semi auto.
A 20" barrel on either a pump or semi = Section 5 gun - regardless of whether the shotgun is "held" on Section 1 or Section 2

ashhow wrote:Now it is my understanding that to own a S1 shotgun with a barrel under 24" you need a "specially tailored FAC" is this true?.

NOT quite...
A S.1 shotgun with sub-24" barrel will be a normal FAC entry - "12-bore shotgun" - it can even be 12" barreled as long as it meets the rest of the S.1 criteria & is over 24" total length.
What is not allowed? Pump-action/semi-auto's

ashhow wrote:Always wanted a short shotgun. The law to my knowledge is that under the 1988 legislation 24" barrell was the minimum for a SGC, but it mentioned nothing under FAC, all I read was prohibiting "short shotguns" but I can't find anything like barrel size that refers to FAC shotguns...

24" barrel minimum = S.2 (also applies to S.1 pumps/semi's)
S1/S2 - also depends on shot capacity for pumps/semi's