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Re: Cumbria Shootings - decision
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:20 pm
by Convict_keeper
Yup Rob thats about what I picked up form it aswell. I watched it last night as my application is in the post so wanted to know if I was to expect any surprises :?
CK
Re: Cumbria Shootings - decision
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:28 pm
by ovenpaa
Robin128 wrote: I also noted that there is likely to be a document sent to GPs when patients are granted FAC, and to consider tagging their computer file...a worry from the point of our security. Also, it seems that Council owned property (social housing) may have some restrictions placed on their tenants about whether firearms may be kept in such properties
I am sure I read here tonight that someone was experiencing problems with an anti shooting GP.. I cannot find it now (Am I cracking up, should I even post this!) Anyway it certainly was not what I expected, i thought we would see a good few more MP's and some heated moments as the subject is quite emotive, instead they were all very polite and reasoned. Nice to see positive representation as well.
Regarding the restrictions on people who rent Council property or similar it would not surprise me if some Councils attempted to put restrictions on the storage of firearms at some point, if only because they can, such actions are totally discriminative and I sincerely hope that part gets kicked out. Where you live should not have any real impact on your certificate. My FEO told me the history of your neighbours could make a difference as well.
Re: Cumbria Shootings - decision
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:50 pm
by Blu
25Pdr, put a pic in the Pictures section just for you mate.
Blu

Re: Cumbria Shootings - decision
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:08 am
by Robin128
Blu,
What FAC holders in the UK are worried about is how secure would be the medical record...ie someone accessing ones files for the wrong reasons.
Parliament was talking about either a letter going on a aper file or a tag on our computer record. Obviously in the former, one would need access to the paper file in the health centre but when its on a computer database it can be more easily accessed by the wrong people, remotely.
BTW still haven't worked out why my house insurer continues to maintain a record that I have firearms in my house even though insured now by someone else.
Rob
Re: Cumbria Shootings - decision
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:21 am
by Blu
Ovenpaa,
I am sure I read here tonight that someone was experiencing problems with an anti shooting GP.. I cannot find it now (Am I cracking up, should I even post this!)
Aye you're losing it mate, it's on page 2 the beginning of 25Pdr's post
Blu

Re: Cumbria Shootings - decision
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:06 am
by ovenpaa
Blu wrote:Ovenpaa,
I am sure I read here tonight that someone was experiencing problems with an anti shooting GP.. I cannot find it now (Am I cracking up, should I even post this!)
Aye you're losing it mate, it's on page 2 the beginning of 25Pdr's post
Blu

It is quite nice when the forum has got to the stage that I cannot find a post because so many more have been posted since, sure does beat that little forum we all joined just a few weeks ago.
Right, I am off to find that post again.
Re: Cumbria Shootings - decision
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:32 am
by Chuck
Rob, they are allowedf to hold info for up to six years - unless you can prove that period is excessive...
Likewise, gathering information ("just for the computer") is illegal.
Re: Cumbria Shootings - decision
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:08 am
by Robin128
I'll be honest, Chuck, you have argued well on this topic over the years.
It will be abused, if held on computer.
Rob
Re: Cumbria Shootings - decision
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:19 am
by Dangermouse
I have a friend who has been stopped twice now, both times on the same stretch of road, because the Police Dispatch operator has misunderstood his FAC details as meaning that he is a criminal who uses firearms - what we call a "firearms marker"
Thankfully he has not had guns pointed at him - yet.
DM
Re: Cumbria Shootings - decision
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:25 am
by Robin128
Worrying Dangermouse.
I notice the Guardian banging on about withdawing FAC from people with convictions.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/dec/2 ... -shootings
"We are also of the view that those who receive shorter custodial sentences should not be allowed to possess firearms and recommend accordingly."
Bird's custodial sentence 20 years ago was suspended.
Let's be fare, should anyone with a criminal record have gun?...(apart from tickets received for tare-arsing back from Sennibridge).
:?:
Rob