Re: When did a freshers week "rite of passage" become a righ
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:29 pm
The only difference between Bliars labour and the tories was the colour of their neckties..............
Pete
Pete
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Oddly, that's a view expressed by many who identify as socialists. I could care less frankly, he kept the actual Tories out for over a decade, and that alone is worth voting for.Pete wrote:The only difference between Bliars labour and the tories was the colour of their neckties..............
Pete
Thatcher, as far as I am concerned is our greatest Prime Minister after Winston Churchill (although, I will agree, she lost it a bit at the end).dromia wrote:Aye but he was twat thatcher on steroids.
Blair should be charged with war crimes for Iraq (where were the weapons of mass destruction?). He also gave away our rebate (negotiated by Mrs M. Thatcher's government) to the EU Ponzi scheme and received nothing in return. He would have sold the UK down the river to be EU president (he is a complete and utter parasite).shugie wrote:Oddly, that's a view expressed by many who identify as socialists. I could care less frankly, he kept the actual Tories out for over a decade, and that alone is worth voting for.Pete wrote:The only difference between Bliars labour and the tories was the colour of their neckties..............
Pete
Well said, I could not agree more!DaveB wrote:Speaking as one from the right of the political spectrum, I have to say that I think you have somehow got the thing backwards.shugie wrote:The whole "woke" business appears to me to be little more than those on the right seeking to suppress political views they don't like,...
It is not the political right who are:
- demanding so-called 'hate speech' laws which are so broadly drafted that they would in fact completely completely abrogate the right of free speech, such
as making it an offence to criticize Islam;
- shouting down and preventing from speaking ('cancelling') anyone whom they perceive to be 'wrong', which to them means anybody with whom they
disagree;
- corrupting academic research and scientific investigation along political lines;
- demanding so-called 'safe-spaces' at university where they can be protected from hearing any opinion which might disagree with their accepted world
view;
and most importantly, it is not the political right that is rioting in the streets and destroying private property, seemingly with complete impunity.
As for woke. I just found this on-line and it is something with which I agree when it comes to 'wokeism'.
America is undergoing a godless revival. A new creed—called “social justice,” “wokeism,” or “the successor ideology”—resembling religion yet avowedly secular and anti-spiritual, is spreading across the country. Its seminaries are the nation’s elite universities, its missionaries work in prestigious newsrooms. Adherents are remaking powerful institutions by “canceling” anyone who dissents or lacks zeal for the cause. Like any good revival, this one is replete with hellfire preaching. Eager audiences are told of their inescapable guilt, or “privilege.” Repentance is demanded, but forgiveness is not offered.
Secular progressivism has become more zealous and evangelical, trampling over traditional American notions of limited governance and tolerance. The defining fault line in American politics may no longer be between left and right. The relevant division now is between people who accept the binding, state-backed power of the new post-secular creed and the diverse coalition of groups—including traditional religious communities, conservatives, left-wing materialists, and one-time liberals alienated by the creeping dominance of left-wing absolutism—who resist its authority.
Heresy on the cardinal issues of race, the nation, and gender is not tolerated. Prominent media, educational and ordinary citizens have lost their jobs or otherwise been punished for alleged ideological infractions. “Wokeism” is not merely an idle belief system—increasingly it is the official philosophy of the ruling class, employed to justify the exercise of coercive power. Governmental authorities and corporations now coordinate in enforcing the dictates of the new secular progressive faith, often at the cost of protecting the constitutional liberties.
Consider the response to the novel coronavirus. Actual religious services among Jews, Christians, and Muslim communities were banned, while mass demonstrations were cheered on by elected officials, civic leaders, and public health professionals. This provides the clearest articulation yet of the way in which the original understanding of America has been reversed: The state, having aligned itself with one creed over others, no longer serves to protect freedom of expression.
Thatcher was becoming more and more eurosceptic so that big europhile Heseltine engineered her downfall and so we ended up with another europhile John Major. There's no way Thatcher would have signed the Maastricht treaty so she had to go.Geek wrote:Thatcher, as far as I am concerned is our greatest Prime Minister after Winston Churchill (although, I will agree, she lost it a bit at the end).dromia wrote:Aye but he was twat thatcher on steroids.
I get this. We've had grads come in and are useless, but think they are God's Gift. As a 'shopfloor' worker I fell into the us vs them mentality simply because they thought they were superior to us, and we knew we were superior to them...channel12 wrote:My reasons for getting a degree was what Rita said in "Educating Rita" I want a certificate to say I had a brain. I worked with graduates who felt themselves superior because of their Uni education but it many cases they weren't brighter or better than me.
There's a film called "The Spiders Web - Britain's Second Empire" which is well worth a watch if you want to understand why manufacturing was hung out to dry. Largely because it was too easy to make a better return on capital in the London money markets than it was to invest in anything else. I think brexit might finally dent the power of the City of London.dromia wrote:Aye but he was twat thatcher on steroids.
He kept driving her deregulation, destroy the public sector, manufacturing sector, big money globalisation that has led the world to the sorry state it is now in.
That was then compounded by c*** cameron and osbastards vindictive austerity that put the nail in this country's coffin so that when covid came we were institutionally bereft, combine that with a current cabinet whose collective IQ must be less than that of a goldfish.
Still the disgraceful and corrupt governments we have had in are just a pale reflection of the British people as they are getting what they have voted for, you put shite in yopu get shite out.