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Re: Well that was pretty traumatic!

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:30 pm
by dromia
Snaperskya I would take such instances as bolt lug galling on an individual basis as the context is everything in such cases, for example over pressure loads or poor headspace can cause "galling". They may have nothing to do with lube or lack thereof.

Also, manufacturers instructions can be influenced by lawyers rather than engineering realities and how many of us actually take any notice of manufacturers advice?

Most if not all manufacturers will say that any warranty on their firearms will be void if anything other than factory ammunition is used yet many many shooters feed their guns handloaded ammunition with aplomb!

Re: Well that was pretty traumatic!

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:08 pm
by Ovenpaa
I remember one UK manufacturer who voided any warranty if reloaded ammunition was used whilst suggesting better accuracy would be seen with some load development...

Re: Well that was pretty traumatic!

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:11 pm
by dromia
Was that the one that had a reputation for dodgy straight pulls?

Re: Well that was pretty traumatic!

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:18 pm
by Ovenpaa
....and here was me being discreet :)

Re: Well that was pretty traumatic!

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:21 pm
by dromia
Also known as Rotund Robert?

Re: Well that was pretty traumatic!

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:29 pm
by Ovenpaa
My lips are sealed lol lol lol lol lol

Re: Well that was pretty traumatic!

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:27 pm
by mag41uk
Ovenpaa wrote:My lips are sealed lol lol lol lol lol
Unlike rotund bob`s

Re: Well that was pretty traumatic!

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:49 pm
by snayperskaya
Ovenpaa wrote:Interestingly I have seen more galling on newer rifles than older ones. By that I mean rifles produced post war vs pre war. I am probably yet to see scuffed lugs on a pre-45 actioned rifle.
Just out of curiosity what was the cause of the galling you've seen, in your opinion?.

Re: Well that was pretty traumatic!

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:00 pm
by Ovenpaa
Good question, it is could be down to many things. Dirt across the lugs, head space, repeated over pressure, poor heat treatment etc. Or all of the above. There are so many reasons really. One thing I will say, they are always of a 2 lug design and no, that does not mean Remington. The only Rems I have seen with scuffed lugs had been re-barreled. The 2 lug construction of a Remington 700 type (if 42 HRC) would give a shear resistance of around 56,5 tons, whereas a reasonable 3 lug is going to be up around the 85 tons mark.

No, this is not a good reason to buy a 3 lug either as the 2 lug should have reduced bolt lift albeit with a greater cam angle. Horses for courses :)

Re: Well that was pretty traumatic!

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:44 am
by Pippin89
Ah, the good old clean it or not debate! It could go on forever. Some people (tends to be older shooters...) say to only clean it when the accuracy drops off. However, the more modern approach is to keep it clean. All of the manufacturers of high end target rimfires (Anschutz, Walther, G&E, Bleiker etc.) recommend cleaning after every shoot. Personally I clean mine religiously to the recommendation.