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Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:15 pm**

Polchraine wrote:
Lose the fob and you have immediately compromised the system. Fobs are fine for arming but NOT for disarming unless it requires a code too.

As soon as you get home after losing the remote, you could just remove it from the system devices and then it is no use to anyone!

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:58 pm**

That assumes you know you have lost them. You could for example drop you keys/fob on your drive and would not know for 8 hours.

Or a fob borrowed and cloned on minutes

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:50 am**

I have one bunch of keys, with everything on it. Plus a few fobs, a coin holder, a note holder, a Leatherman Micra, a mini-Maglite and a whistle. Aside from not being able to get into my car, or my house, it's far too big to drop and not notice.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:45 am**

Polchraine wrote:
Dark Skies wrote:
Some alarms have easy to use key fobs for arming and disarming at the press of a button.

I have a Yale Smart Alarm that does this.
Lose the fob and you have immediately compromised the system. Fobs are fine for arming but NOT for disarming unless it requires a code too.

No. You can easily change the fob's code with the app on your phone the moment you notice it has gone missing.
To be fair you can argue the same for your gun safe's keys should you drop them. Or your car keys etc. No system is 100% - which is why I'm constantly touching my pocket to check my wallet is there, my keys are there, my passport is still in my pocket etc. etc I've conditioned myself to be anxious about security.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:18 pm**

You want to watch out that you don't end up on a register....

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:53 pm**

TRG-22 wrote:I have one bunch of keys, with everything on it. Plus a few fobs, a coin holder, a note holder, a Leatherman Micra, a mini-Maglite and a whistle. Aside from not being able to get into my car, or my house, it's far too big to drop and not notice.

Likewise

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:39 pm**

Yogibear wrote:I dont mean to hijack the thread, but...
Would people be interested in a Professional grade alarm system with wireless / wired sensors/detectors, Smart app and SMS control etc?
If I was to pre configure, set up (I could wire detectors with a short length of cable) and test on my bench then post (or collect from Bisley). All you would have to do is connect to an electric supply, mount the detectors, put longer cables to any wired detectors, insert Sim card of your choice.
We would be able to configure how you wanted it eg gun cabinet detector is permanently armed even when the rest o the house is disarmed etc.
Just thinking out loud atm. Not sure what sort of cost this would be, but definitely more than the DIY toys, but cheaper than paying some one to do it for you.
I usually install large systems, but all my suppliers smaller systems are available to me.

I wouldn't use wireless sensors in an alarm system as they are not 100% reliable.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:20 pm**

Racalman wrote:
Yogibear wrote:
I wouldn't use wireless sensors in an alarm system as they are not 100% reliable.

Have to agree, they are useful when you can easily run a wired link - my garage for example becasue there is a river between the house and there. Certainly for main detection I would advise against - although they do have other uses.

Posted: **Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:15 am**

Just put up a few signs like this.

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