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Re: the wait is almost over

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:02 am
by Dark Skies
Very lovely! I've wanted one for quite some time. I wanted to download for our indoor range using lead bullets but was told as the round was a rifle and not pistol round that it would put our club outside of the insurance cover - regardless of whether it was ballistically equivalent. :(

Re: the wait is almost over

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:10 am
by bradaz11
Yeah my old club had the same kind of hang ups. Luckily the tunnel in charmouth doesn't get their panties in a bunch over that stuff
All i was asked was not to use down loaded 303 in the 25yrd range in case someone saw and assumed I'm using Normal rounds and does likewise which would probably kill anyone in the armoury if done.

Re: the wait is almost over

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 7:45 pm
by bradaz11
just went to make up a few rounds with the lead boolits, suddenly realised I don't own small rifle primers. for a lower load like above, can I use small pistol??

Re: the wait is almost over

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:21 pm
by Daryll
Red dot, Accurate #2 and N320 are all about the same speed... I've used 3.8 gns of all of them in light .38 loads, so they are pretty interchangeable.

I currently use N320 as its the cleanest of the 3...

Re: the wait is almost over

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 9:37 pm
by lasbrisas
bradaz11 wrote:just went to make up a few rounds with the lead boolits, suddenly realised I don't own small rifle primers. for a lower load like above, can I use small pistol??
Yes I use small pistol primers in mine and use N320 as that's what I also use in my .357 loads for comps, makes life simpler.

Re: the wait is almost over

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 9:57 am
by MistAgain
Nice rifle .

I recall that many years back , Parker-Hale bought in 100's of them from somewhere , mostly unfired .

But my question must be , how legal is this rifle ?

Re: the wait is almost over

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 9:59 am
by Dark Skies
MistAgain wrote:Nice rifle .

I recall that many years back , Parker-Hale bought in 100's of them from somewhere , mostly unfired .

But my question must be , how legal is this rifle ?
It's a straight pull bolt version - so totally legal.

Re: the wait is almost over

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 10:16 am
by MistAgain
Yes , i know its a straight pull .

But apart from the new barrel , all the parts are from a self loading M1 Carbine .

Back in the late 90's I brought in a straight pull M14 , Manchester Police seized it and would not release it till the American company provided documentary evidence that all the parts were new , and had never been part of a fully assembled , capable of firing as a self loader .

Even when they got the documents, they tested it in the hope that it would self load . It never did .

Manchester Police claimed that Home Office guidance was that any firearm that had parts from a section 5 firearm , regardless of where it was assembled , was to be considered a section 5 here .

Re: the wait is almost over

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 12:27 pm
by GeeRam
Given that a 'reborn' Inland Manufacturing is currently making all brand-new to original spec (using no original parts) M1's and M1A1's I wonder if they would make/market an all-new straight-pull version.....?

https://www.inland-mfg.com/index.html

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Re: the wait is almost over

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 12:30 pm
by snayperskaya
MistAgain wrote:Yes , i know its a straight pull .

But apart from the new barrel , all the parts are from a self loading M1 Carbine .

Back in the late 90's I brought in a straight pull M14 , Manchester Police seized it and would not release it till the American company provided documentary evidence that all the parts were new , and had never been part of a fully assembled , capable of firing as a self loader .

Even when they got the documents, they tested it in the hope that it would self load . It never did .

Manchester Police claimed that Home Office guidance was that any firearm that had parts from a section 5 firearm , regardless of where it was assembled , was to be considered a section 5 here .
There has been some relaxation providing the firearm has been gone through the proper channels and has been submitted to the Home Office for testing and is approved and proofed as a straight-pull.A certain RFD that did some straight-pull SLRs and SVT-40s didn't go through the proper channnels and gain Home Office approval and came unstuck!.