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Re: SAS firearms.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:38 am
by BamBam
Gundoc wrote:In answer to the question of who does the testing etc.
A unit, whether that be 22 SAS or the 22nd mess tin repair unit decides, we really need a weapon to fill this role.
It goes up the chain and someone agrees, yes the 22nd mess tin repair unit has need of a plasma rifle in the 40 watt range. Right they want this one made by plasma rifles uk.
They get one in, along with several others from uk plasma rifles, plasma GB and of course, plasma USA inc.
They get trialled by the unit in question, defence scientific test labs, the Infantry trials and development unit will have input, as will the projects team for plasma rifles at Abbey wood.
They'll go all over the world, hot, cold, wet and dry testing to see which one is the best overall package, including training, maintenance, repair and add ons. A whole life cost will be looked at and then the bean counters will say. Here you go, it's in the budget.
In all honesty, things can and do happen a bit quicker in the murky, black tape world. But generally, everything is decided at a way higher level.
And they aren't above just saying to companies, here, give us a go of xxxxx and we'll see if we like it.
^^^ This.
I know Gundoc well enough to know that he's on the money.
Re: SAS firearms.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:09 am
by DW58
Another topic for the 22nd FBUK Chairborne Commando Regt. to get excited about whilst achieving absolutely nothing.
Re: SAS firearms.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:37 am
by BamBam
DW58 wrote:Lord give me strength - we'll be opening an airsofting section at this rate.
DW58 wrote:Another topic for the 22nd FBUK Chairborne Commando Regt. to get excited about whilst achieving absolutely nothing.
Here's an idea, post constructively, or let other folk post and discuss what they want without your judgemental input. Start a thread of your own, instead of just moaning.
Re: SAS firearms.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:53 am
by DW58
Surely I'm as entitled to my opinion as the next man - and mine is that this is a totally pointless topic full of speculation and nonsense.
Re: SAS firearms.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:06 pm
by BamBam
DW58 wrote:Surely I'm as entitled to my opinion as the next man - and mine is that this is a totally pointless topic full of speculation and nonsense.
Don't call me Shirley.
That's your opinion, but you're not questioning any specific other opinion, just making a general comment.
Gundoc made good points, as I know Gundoc in real life I know that he has knowledge that civvies wouldn't have. He doesn't speculate and he doesn't type nonsense.
Re: SAS firearms.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:10 pm
by Steve E
Re: SAS firearms.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:19 pm
by Maggot
Here's a thought.
Do a FOI act and see what happens
Re: SAS firearms.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:50 pm
by Fedaykin
To stay legal under EU law the MOD would have to issue a standard intention to procure notice, this is regardless of a rifle being procured for the infantry or special forces. There are exceptions for national security reasons etc.
http://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-marke ... dex_en.htm
Now we have the internet it is easier to see those notices, Government Online posts tenders. For example here is a recent one for ironically a Modular Assault Rifle to be supplied to certain millitary units and the Police:
http://www.government-online.net/supply ... le-system/
The tender actually sets out the procurement process so would certainly go a long way to answering the original thread question.
Re: SAS firearms.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:03 pm
by DW58
BamBam wrote:DW58 wrote:Surely I'm as entitled to my opinion as the next man - and mine is that this is a totally pointless topic full of speculation and nonsense.
Don't call me Shirley.
That's your opinion, but you're not questioning any specific other opinion, just making a general comment.
Gundoc made good points, as I know Gundoc in real life I know that he has knowledge that civvies wouldn't have.
He doesn't speculate and he doesn't type nonsense.
He might not, but as for you ... ...
Re: SAS firearms.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:14 pm
by ordnance
The tender actually sets out the procurement process so would certainly go a long way to answering the original thread question.
Interesting link.
He might not, but as for you ... ...
I think most would think the badge would suit you better. Is a photo of your shoulder patch. ? As suggested if you have no knowledge or anything useful to say on the subject don't bother posting.
