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Re: Competitive Shooting - Warning Shooters Having Fun

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:29 am
by DaveB
Looks like fun. Shame about the emasculated (straight-pull) rifles though. ;)

Re: Competitive Shooting - Warning Shooters Having Fun

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:21 am
by Airbrush
bradaz11 wrote:out of interest, as i haven't done CSR, what do you do to the rifle before the run down? as the video is edited just as they get up and get down.
so you take the last shot before the run down, then what?
When run downs are in the cof every one's rifle is given a safety catch check, safety catches are applied (your safety supervisor ensures this) for the run downs.

In certain rundown cof a loaded mag is inserted with the bolt forward so the rifle is made safe.

Re: Competitive Shooting - Warning Shooters Having Fun

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:47 am
by Strangely Brown
Mike357 wrote:Thanks for posting John. CSR does look like great fun. It seems frowned on by Landmarc up here. Does anybody shoot it on a Landmarc run range?
LERA do on Ash and Henly Park which is part of the Ash complex near Bisley.

Re: Competitive Shooting - Warning Shooters Having Fun

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:50 am
by Airbrush
DaveB wrote:Looks like fun. Shame about the emasculated (straight-pull) rifles though. ;)
Hey that's life, doesn't stop it being good fun or improving your shooting. ;)

Re: Competitive Shooting - Warning Shooters Having Fun

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:40 am
by Dombo63
Gaz wrote:
Strangely Brown wrote:I'm hoping there will be a vid of Saturdays historic Enfield shoot emerging soon, it was noted by some of us that there faces shooting not seen before.

That has to be a good thing!
I had a good time at that one. Damn my dodgy 300yds scores!
Same here. Great fun and nice tight grouping on my sighters. All went to pot under pressure as usual.

Re: Competitive Shooting - Warning Shooters Having Fun

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:14 am
by froggy
Looks nice John :good:

Re: Competitive Shooting - Warning Shooters Having Fun

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:45 am
by Maggot
Airbrush wrote:
bradaz11 wrote:out of interest, as i haven't done CSR, what do you do to the rifle before the run down? as the video is edited just as they get up and get down.
so you take the last shot before the run down, then what?
When run downs are in the cof every one's rifle is given a safety catch check, safety catches are applied (your safety supervisor ensures this) for the run downs.

In certain rundown cof a loaded mag is inserted with the bolt forward so the rifle is made safe.
As Andy says, the safeties are checked, but are not the only story.

There is a comprehensive safety brief before every shoot. Each shooter has their own personal safety bod who double checks the safety before they move. Newbies are usually squadded with the not so new or the downright grizzled.....the latter are usually free with helpful input (known as taking the p***).

Should anyone go over, they are not permitted to shoot until their bore/muzzle is proven clear of any obstructions.

Only methods of carry that involve the rifle pointing forward are allowed and you have to run through the mud in a straight line (or if you are like Fred....you walk on water!!).....or just plough through it like the rest of us.

Muzzle awareness is paramount.

3 ways you carry.

Unloaded

Made safe (Rifle clear/action forward/mag fitted)

Made ready (Round chambered/safety applied).

The latter is closely monitored. I have my safety ambidextrous and coated in dayglow yellow film (It looks great against shocking girlie pink). This has sod all to do with anything tactifool, and is purely so that anyone can see the status of my safety when it matters.

CSR is quite draining. There is a surprising ammount to take in. Its all there, but the trick seems to be to average out the errors over time (procedural/skill not safety).

I am basically worn out on the way home, but to be fair I started saturday damaged and got bent again on Sunday.

It seems like a fairly simple thing to do. Rest a mag on the deck and hit a 12" bull at 300yds prone. Funny, you dont hear a row of "10/wash" after the 300yd snaps.

The top people are usually seperated by 5 or 10 points, so if you dump one round off the target or onto someone elses, thats 5 potential gone.

Another bugger might be the triple Fig11s. A bloody great target, but you only need to hit the centre of the 2 outers, and the winds changing. You get 2 sighters to start the day as a rule, the only other info then coming from splash or the marked targets afterwards....if they are marked after each stage.


Newbies like me also tend to over compensate for time limits and rush. A well built AR for CSR cycles like a well oiled sewing machine (Mine does, cheers Bradders) so straight pull is no real handicap and with a brake even the 77s dont throw the rifle off aim much if at all. I still tend to turn a rapid into a mag emptying race....pointless.

60 seconds to get 10 rounds down.....fairly doable with well aimed shots if you have the skills.

My point? Its easy to see why what appears to be playing silly buggers has caught on so well, but the thing to remember is that its a relatively low cost, attainable, fun day out which will test you to buggery and because the details are quick, large, and close together, it usually really is the same for everyone, so the only thing you can blame is yourself.

That to me is the whole point of CSR, its personal. If you place well, or even win, fantastic. If not, you can still see the funny side and its usually your own fault, not the marker, the NRA, the wind, or the wronk kind of air ;)

Personal, but a day spent with someone different most times and a great way to never get bored.

Try the NRA experience day. No rundowns (although as I worked out....eventually.....they are really fast walk/ambledowns) to my mind the one so far that has delivered value for money.

Re: Competitive Shooting - Warning Shooters Having Fun

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:34 am
by Thorney
Id recommend csr to anyone, I only did one event and that's not a reflection on the event but more on the fact that I'd not shot over 100m before and tbh I had no idea on adjusting the scope etc so was very fish out of water. As soon as I can learn that I will be back. The RO calls are a little different to what I'm used in practical mini rifle and shotgun matches and that got me a bit attneend but that's just experience. A recommended vocation for shooting imo.