The UK's Finest Independent Forum for Shooters and Gun Owners. Est 2010.

Gaz wrote:

Dougan wrote:

Airbrush wrote:How any shooter can even comprehend voting Green is beyond me

That's because you lack the ability to see beyond your own microcosm.

The Greens hate our sport and hate us

That a bit of a generalisation isn't it Gaz...the same could be said of journalists...

John MH wrote:The 'Green Party' are all bonkers, they are not, however, Greenpeace.

Didn't one of the founders of green peace leave as they had basically descending into becoming Anti-human organisation? Strangely they seem to deny he was a founder. Might be something to do with them being against golden rice and him in favor. At least he cares about saving the sight of kids in the third world.

That a bit of a generalisation isn't it Gaz...the same could be said of journalists...[/quote]

It's in the Green Manifesto, it is there for all to see. You can deny it all you want. But it is there. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a group of people wanting a gun ban and no amount of wishing otherwise is going to change it.

Sixshot6 wrote:That a bit of a generalisation isn't it Gaz...the same could be said of journalists...

It's in the Green Manifesto, it is there for all to see. You can deny it all you want. But it is there. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a group of people wanting a gun ban and no amount of wishing otherwise is going to change it.[/quote]


just for the sake of argument, the conservatives launched both the 1998 ban and part 1 of the 1997 ban.
Does that mean all those who support them are anti-gun? I think a large number on here would disagree with that

dave_303 wrote:

Sixshot6 wrote:That a bit of a generalisation isn't it Gaz...the same could be said of journalists...

It's in the Green Manifesto, it is there for all to see. You can deny it all you want. But it is there. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a group of people wanting a gun ban and no amount of wishing otherwise is going to change it.

just for the sake of argument, the conservatives launched both the 1998 ban and part 1 of the 1997 ban.
Does that mean all those who support them are anti-gun? I think a large number on here would disagree with that[/quote]

I never stated the conservatives are pro-gun, they just go with the flow and hell they were deluded to think it would save them from being wiped out, it still happened. No seats in Scotland later and their worst electoral defeat in ever, proved that was up their with Doctor Crippins Defense. With the green's its more in the open, in that sense you have to thank them for their honesty their. And you mean the 1988 ban.

But does that mean I will give the green's more credit. No, no, no, no. Its their and me mister apolitical (in the sense of having no loyalty to a party) will add them to the list of who I don't vote for. With the regards to the conservatives I actually regard them as the worst. Totally lying to their supporters and everyone. They are not Eurosceptic, they don't want to shrink the size of the state, etc or do anything of alot of what they say. I actually have less respect for them than the Greens.

dave_303 wrote:The conservatives launched both the 1998 ban and part 1 of the 1997 ban. Does that mean all those who support them are anti-gun? I think a large number on here would disagree with that

Whilst it's true that the Conservatives implemented some of the severest restrictions to our rights as firearms owners, it's also true that they have no manifesto policies which would place further restrictions upon us.

The 88' and 97' bans were implemented because they were politically advantageous at the time, moral of the story: you can't trust any of the main parties to stand up for shooters when their backs are truly against the wall.

That being said, there was no "knee-jerk" legislation passed by Cameron's party after Cumbria, or other events such as the Horden Shootings or the escapades of Raoul Moat. I am certain that these would have been seized upon by a Labour led government for political gain. Labour have also stated that they would implement further, significant increases in firearms licensing fees. Nothing quite so extreme as the Green Party's policy on the issue, but notable none-the-less.

I think that it's clear which of the main players in this election are the most supportive of the shooting sports. Conversely, the nightmare is surely some form of Labour/Green Party/SNP coalition. In purely the context of security for the civilian ownership of firearms within the UK, a Conservative/UKIP coalition would be preferable.

John MH wrote:The 'Green Party' are all bonkers, they are not, however, Greenpeace.

You're quite right John...it's just that a lot of folk on here don't differentiate between Greens, environmentalist, Ecologists etc; they just call everyone 'Greens'...

...I did give my honest opinion of the Green Party in an earlier post.

A.J.P. wrote:

dave_303 wrote:The conservatives launched both the 1998 ban and part 1 of the 1997 ban. Does that mean all those who support them are anti-gun? I think a large number on here would disagree with that

Whilst it's true that the Conservatives implemented some of the severest restrictions to our rights as firearms owners, it's also true that they have no manifesto policies which would place further restrictions upon us.

The 88' and 97' bans were implemented because they were politically advantageous at the time, moral of the story: you can't trust any of the main parties to stand up for shooters when their backs are truly against the wall.

That being said, there was no "knee-jerk" legislation passed by Cameron's party after Cumbria, or other events such as the Horden Shootings or the escapades of Raoul Moat. I am certain that these would have been seized upon by a Labour led government for political gain. Labour have also stated that they would implement further, significant increases in firearms licensing fees. Nothing quite so extreme as the Green Party's policy on the issue, but notable none-the-less.

I think that it's clear which of the main players in this election are the most supportive of the shooting sports. Conversely, the nightmare is surely some form of Labour/Green Party/SNP coalition. In purely the context of security for the civilian ownership of firearms within the UK, a Conservative/UKIP coalition would be preferable.

Yes the conservatives are the least worst. I was merely pointing out how deluded they were in the last situation.

Sixshot6 wrote:Yes the conservatives are the least worst. I was merely pointing out how deluded they were in the last situation.

Least worse just about sums it up!

Oh don't get me on Greenpeace John MH!