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Re: First use of milsurp 54R leads to short Nagant session.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:56 pm
by spikedueller
snayperskaya wrote:How many 54r tracer you got?, and where did you get it from???, I've been after 54r tracer for ages to use in my Dragunov at Sennybridge.

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I'll fight the lot of you for it!!!! bangbang.........seriously though what are the numbers on the headstamp?, and the tip colour (black or black/red?) because if its what I think it is!..........
If it's Soviet and is black/red then he's a very naughty boy as that would be B32 or API so section 5, black tip is B30 armour piercing so also section 5, tracer is usually green tip in Soviet loadings

Re: First use of milsurp 54R leads to short Nagant session.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:03 pm
by snayperskaya
spikedueller wrote:
snayperskaya wrote:How many 54r tracer you got?, and where did you get it from???, I've been after 54r tracer for ages to use in my Dragunov at Sennybridge.

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I'll fight the lot of you for it!!!! bangbang.........seriously though what are the numbers on the headstamp?, and the tip colour (black or black/red?) because if its what I think it is!..........
If it's Soviet and is black/red then he's a very naughty boy as that would be B32 or API so section 5, black tip is B30 armour piercing so also section 5, tracer is usually green tip in Soviet loadings
I didn't want to post that on an open forum!.

Re: First use of milsurp 54R leads to short Nagant session.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:10 pm
by Blighty
Didn't want to comment either. Take it back to the dealer.

Re: First use of milsurp 54R leads to short Nagant session.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:39 pm
by Charlotte the flyer
Just thinking out loud. What is the possibility of a group buy of 54R tracer? Is it worth talking to an importer if we can commit to a reasonable amount. I'd take 500 as I mainly use tracer on the ranges that I shoot at (that wouldn't last very long but hey, limits and all)

Re: First use of milsurp 54R leads to short Nagant session.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:40 pm
by meles meles
We'd have some...


and limits are there to be raised with good reason !

Re: First use of milsurp 54R leads to short Nagant session.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:45 pm
by Charlotte the flyer
I reckon we'd need to get to 10,000 to make it worth while. And be able to find an importer. It should be about as its currently in use in at least two different wars.

Re: First use of milsurp 54R leads to short Nagant session.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:49 pm
by bigfathairybiker
I've already looked into importing a pallet load of ammo.
The sourcing and importing is easy.
It's the finding somewhere to receive it and store it for distribution that I've had a problem with.

Mark

Re: First use of milsurp 54R leads to short Nagant session.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:53 pm
by snayperskaya
It would appear it is civilian T-46 tracer ammo,188 factory code (Novosibirsk) and 1972 dated, the production date is far to recent to be Russian military black tipped AP as that stuff finished in 1940-ish to when the Soviets standardized the black over red tipped API.......so all good.

Charlotte.....I have spoken to one of the UKs biggest surplus ammo suppliers about 54r tracer and as said early the problem is it is all mixed in with API at the warehouses and getting someone to sort it out is problematic apparently.

Re: First use of milsurp 54R leads to short Nagant session.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:54 pm
by saddler
Charlotte the flyer wrote:Just thinking out loud. What is the possibility of a group buy of 54R tracer? Is it worth talking to an importer if we can commit to a reasonable amount. I'd take 500 as I mainly use tracer on the ranges that I shoot at (that wouldn't last very long but hey, limits and all)
Great idea....wish I'd suggested it first...

Who's the main UK dealer for 7.62x54 / 7.62x53 mil-surp ammo?

Re: First use of milsurp 54R leads to short Nagant session.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:55 pm
by Charlotte the flyer
We need a friendly RFD who wants a cut. Surely there must be one of those around...