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Re: 7.62 x 54R

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:24 am
by ovenpaa
Heh! I could not make up my mind if this was still 54R or had skipped to .303 We also used Lee dies for 54R and I only ever used full length sizing dies and had no issues with them.

Re: 7.62 x 54R

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:38 am
by Doz
Ah, that's OK - wasn't me then! You have however set me wondering whether I can modify a .303 collet die to size 54R...

Re: 7.62 x 54R

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:44 am
by ovenpaa
They are actually quite close other than the shoulder angle but it looks like it can be done

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Re: 7.62 x 54R

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:54 am
by Doz
Thanks for that, yes it looks as though it should be possible and relatively simple although trying it on my old 1947 Myford might be chancing it a bit. I suspect I'll just buy a full-length set of Lee dies - life's too short!

Re: 7.62 x 54R

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:17 pm
by ovenpaa
I would say if you have an old set of .303 Lee dies have a try. Really all you are doing is boring it very slightly and changing the shoulder angle, you can grind up a boring bar for that and off you go :)

G'wan you know you want to try it...

Re: 7.62 x 54R

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:55 pm
by lapua338
Doz,

If you're interested I've a brand new (and unused) set of Lyman dies consisting of a full length resizing die with decapping stem and neck expanding button and a bullet seating die (Part #7452291).

Re: 7.62 x 54R

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:58 pm
by Doz
Ah, could be! PM'd you.

Re: 7.62 x 54R

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:53 pm
by dirtbag
ovenpaa wrote:
Doz wrote:Thanks, that's pretty much what I thought. Is light ball the way to go you think? I was thinking of trying a hundred of light and a hundred heavy to see how they compared.
M44? Avoid the heavy ball. Really! It is hard hitting stuff and in the M44 is quickly going to become a pain, literally. We used S&B 147's in .308" to great effect with Vectan SP9 and Magtech primers, they make for a cheap load and are certainly accurate to 600m

Tried both in all my Nagants for which I have three. The silvertip lightball is the clear winner for me, shame there is none left :/

Re: 7.62 x 54R

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:33 pm
by Doz
Finally got a chance to slug the bore today and got a bit of a surprise - .3135 according to my digital vernier. Clearly .308 isn't going to cut the mustard, should I be going with .311 or trying to get something closer to .313? Would appreciate some wisdom from the boolit experts here please!

Re: 7.62 x 54R

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:48 pm
by lapua338
According to http://www.7.62x54r.net (the Mosin Nagant reference on the web) with a groove diameter of 0.313", a 0.311 or 0.312" bullet should work very well indeed.