The UK's Finest Independent Forum for Shooters and Gun Owners. Est 2010.

Correct.

MSER Certificate of Exemption No 1 of 2012 exempts any person who stores
shooter’s powders within the quantity permitted in the certificate from the
requirement of regulation 10(1) of MSER in relation to that storage.

The exemption certificate does not replace the existing provisions of
regulation 10(2)(b) of MSER, it is an alternative and is subject to certain
conditions. Where the exemption is used, it is in substitution for the provisions
provided in regulation 10(2)(b), not in addition to them.

Persons storing shooter’s powders under the exemption can store up to a
total of 15kg of black powder, smokeless powder or a mixture of both. They
can also store up to 15kg of percussion caps, small arms ammunition or a
mixture of both.

knewmans wrote:As I read it the regulation doesn't refer to 15kg of explosive in the percussion caps and small arm ammunition but to the caps and ammunition themselves. About 120 rounds of .50bmg or 550 .308 or 1200 5.56 or 4500 22LR. No idea for shotgun cartridges.

The 15kg allowance for powder seems to be in addition to the ammunition.

I nearly shat myself there, then redid the calc and it comes out at 5500 for 15kg.

Had forgotten that "loose" powder is in addition to ammo.

Found this elsewhere. The .308 weights correspond pretty much to other sites. My numbers were a bit light but not much. 15kg is about 33 lb.

I would think most people's FAC allowances would take them over the 15kg without shotgun cartridges. My modest allowances of 1200 22LR, 400 .357, 300 .223, 300 6.5x47 and 300 .308 is about 60lb. So does this mean we all need explosive licences and what else besides?

Pistol Rounds
.380
Rounds per pound: 47.06
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 2.13

9mm Luger
Hornady 115gr JHP/XTP
Rounds per pound: 38.10
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 2.63

.38 Special
Rounds per pound: 34.78
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 2.88

.357Mag.
Remington UMC 125gr SJHP
Rounds per pound: 30.77
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 3.25

.357Mag.
Handload 158gr JHP
Rounds per pound: 28.07
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 3.56

40S&W
Rounds per pound: 28.07
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 3.56

.44magnum
200gr Hornady XTP HP
Rounds per pound: 22
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 4.57

.44magnum
240gr LSWC Bullet
Rounds per pound: 19.7
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 5.07

.45ACP
230gr Winchester Ball
Rounds per pound: 21.33
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 4.69

RifleCalibers

.22 LR
Remington Golden 36gr PHP
Rounds per pound: 133.33
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 0.75

.223/5.56X45
(milsurp) British Radway Green SS109 63gr
Rounds per pound: 37.21
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 2.69

30-30 Winchester (a.k.a. .30WCF)
Winchester Silvertip 170gr flat nose
Rounds per pound: 20.28
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 4.92

.243Whinchester
75gr Hornady V-max Handloads
Rounds per pound: 22.22
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 4.5

.308 Winchester
Remington UMC 150gr FMJ
Rounds per pound: 19.05
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 5.25

.308 Winchester
168gr BTHP Match Bullet
Rounds per pound: 18.67
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 5.35

7mm Remington Magnum
Winchester 175gr Power Point
Rounds per pound:14.68
Weight per 100 rounds(lbs):6.81

7.62X39
Wolf Steel Case 122gr FMJ
Rounds per pound:27.59
Weight per 100 rounds(lbs):3.63

Shotgun Calibers

12GA 2 3/4" Slug
Federal HI-Shok Slug
Rounds per pound: 10.53
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 9.50

12GA 2 3/4" #4 Shot
Remington Express 4BK
Rounds per pound: 9.30
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 10.75

12GA 2 3/4" #7 1/2 Shot
Federal #7 1/2 Shot
Rounds per pound: 10.53
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 9.75

12GA 2 3/4"00 Buckshot
Federal Express 9 Pellet
Rounds per pound: 9.76
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 10.25

12GA 3" Slug
Federal 3" Rifled Slug
Rounds per pound: 8.89
Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 11.25

Is it not mass of powder in ammunition (so 44gr/.308 round) rather than "all up" ammunition weight?

The regulation doesn't seem to make that distinction. The definition of small arms ammunition also includes primed cases.

I wish I didn't read threads like this - so, without certification, is it 5Kg or 15kg of powder reloaders can hold?

zanes wrote:Is it not mass of powder in ammunition (so 44gr/.308 round) rather than "all up" ammunition weight?

Quite right what you are looking for is net explosive content. There is a table produced that will give averages for each round of loaded ammunition as a guide line.

SevenSixTwo wrote:I wish I didn't read threads like this - so, without certification, is it 5Kg or 15kg of powder reloaders can hold?

15Kg.

Thanks.

Amazing how you have to trawl through legislation to find the one sentence that sorts out the confusion.

Any reference in these Regulations to the quantity
of an explosive is to be construed as a
reference to the net mass of explosive substance.

So .308 is about 3grams per round inc primer = over 5000 for 15kg explosive.