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Re: Fox hunting: a reasoned debate...

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:17 pm
by shotgun sam
The ban on hunting foxes with hounds means more of them for us to shoot every cloud has a silver lining. Not that I had a problem with hunting with hounds each to their own.
I believe that there are now more foxes killed every year than pre ban and shooting combined.
The farms I shoot on want all foxes no matter what age shot on sight I will assume that a good number of farmers in the old fox hunting areas also want this done as well.

Re: Fox hunting: a reasoned debate...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:20 pm
by Oldskool
Killing any animal should never be done lightly IMO . But ... To derive "pleasure " from it seems wrong to me . That said if an animal is a pest then I see no reason why it shouldn't be culled .

In fairness to farmers foxes are a right pest . My mate who has an allotment has had 42 birds taken in 2 years .

I'm by no means an anti but chasing an animal , then tearing it apart with dogs is not my idea of a fun time . Happy to shoot em tho , where required .

Re: Fox hunting: a reasoned debate...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:21 pm
by Mr_Logic
But they generally aren't ripped apart, usually pretty quick. Live and let live! Can't really try hate people for trying to stop shooting if we try to stop their activity.

Re: Fox hunting: a reasoned debate...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:33 pm
by Oldskool
Mr_Logic wrote:But they generally aren't ripped apart, usually pretty quick. Live and let live! Can't really try hate people for trying to stop shooting if we try to stop their activity.
Yeah it's difficult to know what the real situation is in this as both sides are so ...het up about it . If they only catch the fox 1/7 times seems pretty pointless really from a pest control POV ?

Re: Fox hunting: a reasoned debate...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:44 pm
by Mr_Logic
It's not really about the killing afaik

Re: Fox hunting: a reasoned debate...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:52 pm
by Oldskool
Mr_Logic wrote:It's not really about the killing afaik
If the pest control argument doesn't stack up the Not sure how it can be justified then ? If it's actually about having a jolly good gallop over the fields then fine crack on , live a good gallop myself .

Don't get me wrong I'm not that bothered about foxes .... Just don't like nonsense being spouted !

Re: Fox hunting: a reasoned debate...

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:43 am
by Mr_Logic
It can be justified because people want to do it; sure there is pest control involved but the riding and time in the countryside are the main things, so I'm told.

Is the killing the main thing for you with a gun? It's not for me. Time in the open, the peace and quiet, marksmanship etc mean far more. Death of an animal is just a by-product.

Re: Fox hunting: a reasoned debate...

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:02 am
by Blackstuff
Triffid wrote:
Sod the foxes. Anyone for a debate on the Badger cull?

Triffid
http://eveningharold.com/2014/10/21/bad ... -of-ebola/

Re: Fox hunting: a reasoned debate...

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:57 pm
by meles meles
Surely you oomans can't oppose a cull of your numbers to stop you spreading 'orrible infections...

Re: Fox hunting: a reasoned debate...

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:07 pm
by dromia
If you had wider vision you would see that across the world with disease, war, indifference, greed and poverty all bringing premature death to millions we have an ongoing cull in place.

Now if you badgers would do something similar I could get some indigenous badger fat to compare with the stuff I ordered from the Ukraine,