Blackstuff wrote:I prefer to have mine separate so that i can do SOME type of shooting while they're dragging their feet/cocking up the other certificate :roll: :lol:
Why? Do you leave your renewal until the day it is due and then surrender your guns?
No reason not to carry on shooting whilst the renewal is in progress, you still have your certificates and they are valid if you apply in time.
Not if it is outside of your home county.
Why?
My renewal goes in, I have my FAC and SGC in my possession, so why not?
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Blackstuff wrote:I prefer to have mine separate so that i can do SOME type of shooting while they're dragging their feet/cocking up the other certificate :roll: :lol:
Why? Do you leave your renewal until the day it is due and then surrender your guns?
No reason not to carry on shooting whilst the renewal is in progress, you still have your certificates and they are valid if you apply in time.
Not if it is outside of your home county.
If you don't have the original certificate in your possession if stopped by a police officer then they can take possession of your guns and away to the nearest armoury they go (nearest when they're taken off you). Might not be an issue if you're in your home county, might be a nightmare if you're at the other end of the country
And you're also assuming they process them while the certificate is in date, my last 2 renewals both went over time, despite me putting them in 3 months ahead of the expiry date.
Blackstuff wrote:
If you don't have the original certificate in your possession if stopped by a police officer then they can take possession of your guns and away to the nearest armoury they go (nearest when they're taken off you). Might not be an issue if you're in your home county, might be a nightmare if you're at the other end of the country
And you're also assuming they process them while the certificate is in date, my last 2 renewals both went over time, despite me putting them in 3 months ahead of the expiry date.
Two different issue there. Up until the date of expiry you still have a valid certificate in your possession.
Immediately after that date you are in illegal possession, so you should have lodged them with an RFD and cannot use them anyway - unless a temporary certificate has been issued in which case you have a valid certificate.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it's difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln
Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
God loves stupid people, that is why he made so many of them.
Chapuis wrote:"my last 2 renewals both went over time, despite me putting them in 3 months ahead of the expiry date."
I take it you requested temporary permits then??
Yes but Durham refused to issue them. Both times they said "keep your guns just don't shoot them and you'll be fine" and stupidly i did that the first time, the second time i lodged them with an RFD.
Blackstuff wrote:
If you don't have the original certificate in your possession if stopped by a police officer then they can take possession of your guns and away to the nearest armoury they go (nearest when they're taken off you). Might not be an issue if you're in your home county, might be a nightmare if you're at the other end of the country
And you're also assuming they process them while the certificate is in date, my last 2 renewals both went over time, despite me putting them in 3 months ahead of the expiry date.
Two different issue there. Up until the date of expiry you still have a valid certificate in your possession.
Immediately after that date you are in illegal possession, so you should have lodged them with an RFD and cannot use them anyway - unless a temporary certificate has been issued in which case you have a valid certificate.
If you don't have the actual piece of paper in your hand the police officer can take possession of your guns, and it is also an offence. In practice i think most police officers would be satisfied with a PNC/PND check and when BASC got involved in this they said that no one has ever been charged with the offence (where that was the only offence), but i've got terrible luck and i know that if i was pulled the officer would be a d!ck and the PNC wouldn't be working (this actually happened when i was involved in a RTA and because details couldn't be verified at the time i got a 'producer')
Blackstuff wrote:
If you don't have the actual piece of paper in your hand the police officer can take possession of your guns, and it is also an offence. In practice i think most police officers would be satisfied with a PNC/PND check and when BASC got involved in this they said that no one has ever been charged with the offence (where that was the only offence), but i've got terrible luck and i know that if i was pulled the officer would be a d!ck and the PNC wouldn't be working (this actually happened when i was involved in a RTA and because details couldn't be verified at the time i got a 'producer')
True, but that could happen at any time - does not matter about renewals or co-terminus ...
Provided you apply in time and the replacement is turned round before expiry there is no reason not to have it with you.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it's difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln
Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
God loves stupid people, that is why he made so many of them.
Chapuis wrote:"my last 2 renewals both went over time, despite me putting them in 3 months ahead of the expiry date."
I take it you requested temporary permits then??
Yes but Durham refused to issue them. Both times they said "keep your guns just don't shoot them and you'll be fine" and stupidly i did that the first time, the second time i lodged them with an RFD.
Did you accept that without making a formal complaint?
Did you charge them for the recovery of storage costs?
Did you contact your shooting association?
Blackstuff wrote:
If you don't have the actual piece of paper in your hand the police officer can take possession of your guns, and it is also an offence. In practice i think most police officers would be satisfied with a PNC/PND check and when BASC got involved in this they said that no one has ever been charged with the offence (where that was the only offence), but i've got terrible luck and i know that if i was pulled the officer would be a d!ck and the PNC wouldn't be working (this actually happened when i was involved in a RTA and because details couldn't be verified at the time i got a 'producer')
True, but that could happen at any time - does not matter about renewals or co-terminus ...
Provided you apply in time and the replacement is turned round before expiry there is no reason not to have it with you.
Exactly! The only time i don't have my certificates with me when i've got guns is during renewals and variations (And i always try to keep my certificates until the variation is approved and just hand over the old cert when i pick up the new one at the police HQ)
Chapuis wrote:"my last 2 renewals both went over time, despite me putting them in 3 months ahead of the expiry date."
I take it you requested temporary permits then??
Yes but Durham refused to issue them. Both times they said "keep your guns just don't shoot them and you'll be fine" and stupidly i did that the first time, the second time i lodged them with an RFD.
Did you accept that without making a formal complaint?
Did you charge them for the recovery of storage costs?
Did you contact your shooting association?
No, it was my first renewal and i didn't want to 'rock the boat' at the time
I wasn't charged anything as the RFD was my rifle club
No, see first answer.
