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Re: Mass Shootings Here and Abroad Over the Last 30 Years or
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:09 pm
by Christel
That is what I do not really understand, if he did it and the State has all the evidence, then why not publish the records/interviews/transcripts connected with this case?
To protect the relatives? Yes, that I can understand, on the other hand would they not want the theories to stop?
I found this...
http://southeastasianews.org/portarthur ... cript.html
No way of knowing if that is legit.
Just thinking that instead of all these conspiracy theories why not just publish it all. It has been nearly 20 years.
Re: Mass Shootings Here and Abroad Over the Last 30 Years or
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:18 pm
by Sandgroper
He plead guilty and was sentenced - no trial as such.
Basically, it was a 'perfect storm' : Dunblane + Port Arthur + Shocked public + Strong Federal Govt + Fractured and bickering States = New firearms laws.
End of story
Edit:
Just thinking that instead of all these conspiracy theories why not just publish it all. It has been nearly 20 years.
Because I doubt it's an issue in Australia - except for some shooters. Even if the facts were published there will be still be some that will never believe them.
Re: Mass Shootings Here and Abroad Over the Last 30 Years or
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:27 pm
by Christel
http://southeastasianews.org/portarthur ... peech.html
SG, very true, some people no matter what you tell them won't listen and won't change their mind.
Re: Mass Shootings Here and Abroad Over the Last 30 Years or
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:29 pm
by Christel
Ah, just realised SG...that was not a dig at you. That was meant for the conspiracy theorists.
Only thing is just that there are groups out there who think that something is not right. Why not just give them whatever they are asking for?
Re: Mass Shootings Here and Abroad Over the Last 30 Years or
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:45 pm
by Sandgroper
On that we agree.
Regarding Mcgregor's speech, the fact that he mentions ASIO makes me laugh. ASIO at that time had a very poor reputation and a series of cock ups under it's belt, so if they'd been involved we'd all know the facts of any conspiracy long before now - leakier than a sieve!
Re: Mass Shootings Here and Abroad Over the Last 30 Years or
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:49 pm
by Christel
Found these three pictures, sad sight isn't it :roll:
Re: Mass Shootings Here and Abroad Over the Last 30 Years or
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:08 am
by Christel
Most of the major ills of the world have been caused by well-meaning people who ignored the principle of individual freedom, except as applied to themselves, and who were obsessed with fanatical zeal to improve the lot of mankind-in-the-mass through some pet formula of their own. The harm done by ordinary criminals, murderers, gangsters, and thieves is negligible in comparison with the agony inflicted upon human beings by the professional do-gooders, who attempt to set themselves up as gods on earth and who would ruthlessly force their views on all others- with the abiding assurance that the end justifies the means." Henry Grady Weaver
Re: Mass Shootings Here and Abroad Over the Last 30 Years or
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:30 pm
by Chuck
Excellent post Christel (not the gun vandalism one, that is just sheer bloodymindedness) - if only they could see themselves as others see them for what they are.
Re: Mass Shootings Here and Abroad Over the Last 30 Years or
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:02 pm
by Christel
Rebecca Peters ought to be on this picture
Re: Mass Shootings Here and Abroad Over the Last 30 Years or
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:00 pm
by Christel
Just spotted this...
the records of the Port Arthur massacre have been locked away for thirty years making them immune from scrutiny under the Freedom of Information Act
Maybe the files will be released in 2026, maybe not.