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Re: Calibre/Chamber Rules

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:54 pm
by snayperskaya
I'm under West Mercia and my rifles have the calibre and cartridge size, I was led to believe 7.62/.308 refered to a 7.62 NATO/.308 Winchester chambering and other 7.62 rounds ie 7.62x39 were treated/specified differently.

Re: Calibre/Chamber Rules

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:07 pm
by meles meles
Maybe Ian from the NRA will pop up in a minute and give us his view: he's a smart cookie and knows about such things.

Re: Calibre/Chamber Rules

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:15 pm
by Demonic69
Blackstuff wrote:is it really THAT much hassle getting the entry changed for free? It could be a carry on if you're buying it at a gun show miles from home i suppose, but if its just in a local shop or private, just pay for it and put the non-variation, variation in O:-)
No, and I expect that's what I'd have to do, praying it didn't take months to sort. If the variation system was simple and quick that would be great.
I'm assuming you'd just pay for the rifle and collect it once the variation was in.
But, if yours says 7.62/.308 and you went and bought an AKMS or Mosin, what COULD they do is the question? :D
Blackstuff wrote:(albeit a definite 'first world' problem tesnews )
Isn't that what forums are for? 2nd and 3rd-worlders don't have (or shouldn't have in favour of food) laptops with internet :55:

Re: Calibre/Chamber Rules

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:56 pm
by paulbradley
Love the post from Meles!

Re: Calibre/Chamber Rules

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:01 pm
by meles meles
paulbradley wrote:Love the post from Meles!

You can call us "Badger", ooman: meles meles is our Sunday best name...

Re: Calibre/Chamber Rules

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:41 pm
by phaedra1106
meles meles wrote:You can call us "Badger", ooman: meles meles is our Sunday best name...
Or if you want his Sunday Roast name .............

" According to one French cookbook, 'Les Cuisines Oubliees' by Annie and Jean-Claude Molinier, it was traditional, prior to cooking, to skin the badger and then suspend it in a fast-flowing river for 48 hours to "de-grease" it.

After that, you cut it into pieces, brown it in a frying pan with butter, flambée with armanac, pour over some sparkling wine and simmer for two hours. Then add a glass of pig's blood, two egg yolks, some ginger and creme fraiche and, voila"

Re: Calibre/Chamber Rules

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:46 pm
by Blackstuff
Demonic69 wrote: No, and I expect that's what I'd have to do, praying it didn't take months to sort. If the variation system was simple and quick that would be great.
I'm assuming you'd just pay for the rifle and collect it once the variation was in.
But, if yours says 7.62/.308 and you went and bought an AKMS or Mosin, what COULD they do is the question? :D
Blackstuff wrote:(albeit a definite 'first world' problem tesnews )
Isn't that what forums are for? 2nd and 3rd-worlders don't have (or shouldn't have in favour of food) laptops with internet :55:
:lol:

I assume the worst penalty would be you being charged with unlawful possession of a firearm and the RFD getting his licence revoked :squirrel:

Re: Calibre/Chamber Rules

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:31 pm
by snayperskaya
Blackstuff wrote:
Demonic69 wrote: No, and I expect that's what I'd have to do, praying it didn't take months to sort. If the variation system was simple and quick that would be great.
I'm assuming you'd just pay for the rifle and collect it once the variation was in.
But, if yours says 7.62/.308 and you went and bought an AKMS or Mosin, what COULD they do is the question? :D
Blackstuff wrote:(albeit a definite 'first world' problem tesnews )
Isn't that what forums are for? 2nd and 3rd-worlders don't have (or shouldn't have in favour of food) laptops with internet :55:
:lol:

I assume the worst penalty would be you being charged with unlawful possession of a firearm and the RFD getting his licence revoked :squirrel:
Thats what I thought

Re: Calibre/Chamber Rules

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:28 pm
by Maggot
The HO say they are supposed to license by calibre, but most (certainly mine) seem to also be chamber specific.

This is silly on several counts.

Forgetting the illegal user (in which case none of this matters but it is who the pedantry it aimed at) if they just said 7.62/.308 or even a .30 cal slot, it would make their and our lives easier come variation time.

We send in details when we sell or buy anyway so they could get the details from that.

Also, as my FEO pointed out, by and large most .30 cal holes are lethal....so what's the biggie?

Just time wasting to be fair.

Actually I have just got my FAC back with a collectors slot....the letter that came with it may as well have been in Swahili.

All it needed to say was

You can have 550 of anything between very very small to 19.2mm that don't explode/catch fire and is inert.

see, an essay where 1 sentence would have done.

No mention whether I need to add every (licensable) bullet I acquire to my FAC, and no mention as to whether I need to lock said bullets up....not that I will, they are inert tesnews

All rather silly.....

Re: Calibre/Chamber Rules

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:10 am
by snayperskaya
Maggot wrote:The HO say they are supposed to license by calibre, but most (certainly mine) seem to also be chamber specific.

This is silly on several counts.

Forgetting the illegal user (in which case none of this matters but it is who the pedantry it aimed at) if they just said 7.62/.308 or even a .30 cal slot, it would make their and our lives easier come variation time.

We send in details when we sell or buy anyway so they could get the details from that.

Also, as my FEO pointed out, by and large most .30 cal holes are lethal....so what's the biggie?

Just time wasting to be fair.

Actually I have just got my FAC back with a collectors slot....the letter that came with it may as well have been in Swahili.

All it needed to say was

You can have 550 of anything between very very small to 19.2mm that don't explode/catch fire and is inert.

see, an essay where 1 sentence would have done.

No mention whether I need to add every (licensable) bullet I acquire to my FAC, and no mention as to whether I need to lock said bullets up....not that I will, they are inert tesnews

All rather silly.....
If its inert ammunition why do they say you can have 550?, surely if its inert you can have as many as you want or am I missing something.