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dromia wrote:The only sure way of making the compound in primers safe is a long soak say two weeks in a strong akaline solution like bleach or ammonia followed by an equally long soak in a strong acid solution like hydrochloric, sulphuric and nitric are also suitable. The liquids need to be in good contact with the priming solids as they deteriorate so regular agitation is a good idea. I use 35mm film canisters, remember them. Finally add a tuft or two of steel wool to the primer/acid mix for a couple of days to finally destroy the remaining explosive molecules. Shotgun primers are supposed to very difficult to deactivate as one of the priming layers seems to be impervious to any reagent and shooting them off is recommended.
Oil, WD40 do not render primers safe they may temporarily stop them from being fired whilst wet but the compound will still go off if heated and the primers are still likely to fire when the oil, WD40 etc has evaporated.
I got this method years ago from an article by the late Dean A Grennell which also explained the chemistry involved but that has long been forgotten by me and never really understood. This method has served me well over the years.
If you let the primers dry after deactivation and submit them to heat, pounding and such like you will then be reassured that they are truly decommissioned.
Thank you Adam for that :cheers:
I'm quite surprised by how difficult it is to decommission them...I actually thought they were reasonably fragile (to damp etc.), and have been worried in the past about leaving cases primed, but not loaded in the open for more than a few days in case the primers 'spoiled'...
That's quite a procedure to go through with the alkali and acid - Thanks for the detail, it's quite amazing; but I wouldn't go (not from scratch for 20 primers) to that length unless I was making an inert round...
...so it looks like, I'll just have to stick them back in some cases and fire them off...
Oiled primers take a hell of a time to go inert mate.
It's really a trick for collectors.
I submerge damaged primers in oil and leave them there.
The problem is that most (if not all) primers have a sealant to protect them form the environment and whatever crap we can get on them.
You will also notice that they are not supplied in an airtight container, they don't need it as they are pretty well protected.
Some time back, I oiled some very old .303 rounds (had original hemispherical primers).
The result some time later was a foam a bit like the quatermass experiment...gave am a good swill in de greaser and a good wash for me...they have been fine since.
As regards bashing primers with a hammer mate...please don't.
You may protect your eyes, but having seen many primers set off "Un contained" during destruction by fire etc, they are little bundles of misery that are more than capable of pinging a nasty little splinter where you least expect it.
PS...nice to see you at East Holm, are you local??
Yes it was good to see you too - I keep bumping into forum members at Bisley, but wasn't expecting to hear 'Dougan' bellowed across the car park at East Holme
I'm about 30 mins away from the range, and shoot with my club there about 7/8 times a year - I really like the range...it's great for classics and zeroing...do the Dorset Riflemen shoot there regularly?
Well after so many warnings about the 'hammer' method, I'll not do it...not because I think it's unsafe if done carefully...but because i'd look a right chump if I had to report back that I'd been 'pin-holed' like a spacecraft in a micro-meteor shower razz
Put them on the fire. Makes a nice pop, or more likely a POP!
Burning some rubbish from the workshop which had a load of spent primers in from the press waste tray and there must have been a couple of live ones fallen in there.
Made me jump, but not as bad as when the wife throws away a used can of hair spray in the burning rubbish
Arming the Country, one gun at a time.
Good deals with Paul101, Charlotte the flyer, majordisorder, Charlie Muggins, among others. Thanks everybody.
Mattnall wrote:Put them on the fire. Makes a nice pop, or more likely a POP!
Burning some rubbish from the workshop which had a load of spent primers in from the press waste tray and there must have been a couple of live ones fallen in there.
Made me jump, but not as bad as when the wife throws away a used can of hair spray in the burning rubbish
That is how we used to get shot, in a nice thick steel drum to be fair with a heavy mesh over the top but it was damaged rounds going in as well.
The problem with bashing the things is you never know how the bashing implement will react.
I guess you could place them in some rags or something, they can go like hell though.
Like most things, if you were doing it en mass, you could fashion as suitable anvil etc.
I like the (albeit noisy) idea of whacking them, but the anvil needs to be shielded to stop splinters etc, decent gloves, goggles, etc etc.
Yes it was good to see you too - I keep bumping into forum members at Bisley, but wasn't expecting to hear 'Dougan' bellowed across the car park at East Holme
I'm about 30 mins away from the range, and shoot with my club there about 7/8 times a year - I really like the range...it's great for classics and zeroing...do the Dorset Riflemen shoot there regularly?
Well after so many warnings about the 'hammer' method, I'll not do it...not because I think it's unsafe if done carefully...but because i'd look a right chump if I had to report back that I'd been 'pin-holed' like a spacecraft in a micro-meteor shower razz
:cheers:
John.
Hi J
Supposed to be once a month but it can be quite poorly supported and we do get messed about a bit by the MOD tesnews
