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froggy wrote:Actually the majority of people who do not know you or our sport don't really care about what you wear anyway ...
you like guns ? = you's sick & belong to a loony bin !!

I might be sick and belong in a loony bin, but don't go round telling everyone Froggy...!

The CSR people don't want us to ware to much camo, which I understand now if this thread is whats being said at Bisley !! all I have is waterproof real tree stuff, but I will do my best to get something I can use warm and waterproof for Januarys event.

I get it and respect the requests, but I also think its a great shame as the best and cheapest good gear out there is all either Camo or military , stuff designed to do exactly what we want it to do.

Is this not a case of the minority ruling the majority ? aaarggh

perhaps shooting at Bisley in a muslim Burka ?? would upset less

I get the posts about cheapness and practicality.

But one undeniable fact remains: we all shoot in the same conditions on the same range so why are CSR people clearly so drawn to camouflage in such high numbers compared to any other shooting discipline? Surely if the arguments set out here where so valid you would see shooters of all types in camouflage in the same proportions? There something else going on with CSR shooters and although its not unhealthy ( I know several people who shoot CSR in camouflage and I know them to be great guys with a healthy view of shooting) it can look bad to non-shooters. Mercer is right.

I just don't get the hand wringing appeasement. When did our society decline to such an extent that we must not offend or cause distress to anyone.

The NRA was founded to focus on marksmanship for a militia or volunteer forces.

Shouldn't the governing body be educating the public and promoting marksmanship and shooting in general?

I'm not advocating that the shooting community imitate members of the military so when did a small number of people wearing miscellaneous surplus clothing become such a calamitous "image" problem?

I've been waiting 12 months for a response from that inadequate on other matters but he still finds the time to post on fb.

Quarters wrote:I get the posts about cheapness and practicality.

But one undeniable fact remains: we all shoot in the same conditions on the same range so why are CSR people clearly so drawn to camouflage in such high numbers compared to any other shooting discipline? Surely if the arguments set out here where so valid you would see shooters of all types in camouflage in the same proportions? There something else going on with CSR shooters and although its not unhealthy ( I know several people who shoot CSR in camouflage and I know them to be great guys with a healthy view of shooting) it can look bad to non-shooters. Mercer is right.

Unlike Target Rifle, Match Rifle and F Class shooters who lay prone on shooting mats and sometimes shelter under gazebos CSR shooters do not shoot off mats, the lay on and run through mud and sometimes deep puddles. Practical weather proof outer clothing is essential to keep warm and dry, for some that means wearing cheap Milsurp waterproof and there is no harm in that. But being dressed in head to toe DPM/MTP on arrival in your car and for the trip home is not really necessary.

John MH wrote:

Quarters wrote:I get the posts about cheapness and practicality.

But one undeniable fact remains: we all shoot in the same conditions on the same range so why are CSR people clearly so drawn to camouflage in such high numbers compared to any other shooting discipline? Surely if the arguments set out here where so valid you would see shooters of all types in camouflage in the same proportions? There something else going on with CSR shooters and although its not unhealthy ( I know several people who shoot CSR in camouflage and I know them to be great guys with a healthy view of shooting) it can look bad to non-shooters. Mercer is right.

Unlike Target Rifle, Match Rifle and F Class shooters who lay prone on shooting mats and sometimes shelter under gazebos CSR shooters do not shoot off mats, the lay on and run through mud and sometimes deep puddles. Practical weather proof outer clothing is essential to keep warm and dry, for some that means wearing cheap Milsurp waterproof and there is no harm in that. But being dressed in head to toe DPM/MTP on arrival in your car and for the trip home is not really necessary.

The voice of COMMON SENSE at last ^^^^^^^^

John MH wrote:

Quarters wrote:I get the posts about cheapness and practicality.

But one undeniable fact remains: we all shoot in the same conditions on the same range so why are CSR people clearly so drawn to camouflage in such high numbers compared to any other shooting discipline? Surely if the arguments set out here where so valid you would see shooters of all types in camouflage in the same proportions? There something else going on with CSR shooters and although its not unhealthy ( I know several people who shoot CSR in camouflage and I know them to be great guys with a healthy view of shooting) it can look bad to non-shooters. Mercer is right.

Unlike Target Rifle, Match Rifle and F Class shooters who lay prone on shooting mats and sometimes shelter under gazebos CSR shooters do not shoot off mats, the lay on and run through mud and sometimes deep puddles. Practical weather proof outer clothing is essential to keep warm and dry, for some that means wearing cheap Milsurp waterproof and there is no harm in that. But being dressed in head to toe DPM/MTP on arrival in your car and for the trip home is not really necessary.

^ This.

So how many shooters were on Century last Sunday other than us shooting CSR? We shoot in the crappiest of weather all day, and oftentimes standing around for hours at a time in the butts waiting our turn. Then when we do shoot, we also act as a safety supervisor for our partners. So we all get to run through the swamp twice. It's a fantastic discipline, with some fantastic shooters. The vast majority of which choose their clothing based on what will be most comfortable for the conditions on the day.

All the outdoor clothing companies make practical, waterproof clothing; I have a full wardrobe of the stuff that would be fine for any CSR competition but none of it is camouflage. So I just don't buy the 'we're CSR we don't use mats therefore I'll wear full combats' argument.

Cost is an issue for nearly all of us. I watch the pennies as well - I need to. Saturday I'll be shooting in a very practical, waterproof, cheap jacket - it's blue.

I shoot in the rain all day too.

I don't see how green is more comfortable than blue.

Quarters wrote:All the outdoor clothing companies make practical, waterproof clothing; I have a full wardrobe of the stuff that would be fine for any CSR competition but none of it is camouflage. So I just don't buy the 'we're CSR we don't use mats therefore I'll wear full combats' argument.

Cost is an issue for nearly all of us. I watch the pennies as well - I need to. Saturday I'll be shooting in a very practical, waterproof, cheap jacket - it's blue.

I'm not saying we have to wear full combats and I don't, but if someone wants to keep warm and dry them don't hang them out because you don't like what they wear, or is your dislike of CSR more deeply rooted?