The UK's Finest Independent Forum for Shooters and Gun Owners. Est 2010.

The staff including the CEO are recruited same as in any organisation - they are not elected.

The General Council and Trustees are elected and they then elect a Chairman.

Mabbott is no longer involved in the NRA structure.

Hope that helps

Love

karen

Blu wrote:

joe wrote:Would this be the story you refer to Joe? From 2 years ago. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/944647 ... wners.html

yer that one

I take your point Joe but I don't think anyone here was bashing the US NRA, thanks for the support though and I agree that as well as sharing the NRA name we should also be supporting each other.

Just a quick question if I may to anyone who cares to answer. Is the CEO of the UK NRA and elected position?[/quote]

I agree , ITAR makes it tough for us though

MiLisCer wrote:Dougan.

I am an NRA member and have not had replies to my last 3 emails!
The only person at the NRA who replies to emails promptly and with the answers is Iain R.

Well that is of concern - From what I know of you, I would imagine that your inquiries were reasonable, so not sure why you wouldn't get a response; even if it were just an acknowledgement...

...I'm not excusing the NRA (or deliberately playing devils advocate), but there are a few possibilities I'm thinking of - One is that they may not be able to cope with the amount of email they're getting...even well organised, it's not that easy to respond to more than 30 emails a day if each one is a separate issue...

...the other thing, is that they may be getting fed up with constant, and what they may feel unjustified criticism...I'm not condoning it, but I could understand it if some mail from constant complainers got filed in the bin.

I genuinely felt that communication had improved over the last year...I've never emailed Mr Mercer, but I've made a few inquiries to the new Head of Shooting Division this year, and been more than happy with the responses...

...also, I've always thought that the communication about accommodation wasn't so good, but a while back I got an email telling me that my accommodation arrangements had been changed...I called, with no confidence at all that I'd get to speak to the right person that day...but the actual person who sent the mail answered the phone straight away (I was a bit taken aback) and was very helpful and friendly; making sure I wasn't inconvenienced by the change...I was actually impressed.

karen wrote:The staff including the CEO are recruited same as in any organisation - they are not elected.

The General Council and Trustees are elected and they then elect a Chairman.

Mabbott is no longer involved in the NRA structure.

Hope that helps

Love

karen

Yep thanks Karen.

I reckon our system is a little more democratic as our lot are not recruited the same as in any organisation. We don't have a CEO position.

With the exception of employees such as admin personnel and legal eagles, the US NRA is governed by a board of 76 directors elected by the NRA membership at the AGM and postal votes for a three year term. Those directors in turn elect a president, one or more vice presidents, an executive vice president (the leading spokesperson for the organization), a secretary, and a treasurer from among the directors.

Forgot to add that the membership can and have done in the past, had directors removed from the board before their term is up.

tackb, I was thinking more along the political and activist line. Lobbying politicians and such though ITAR is a valid point. Thing is though ITAR is a UN thing which the UK has also signed up for. The US NRA is actively fighting through Federal court to have ITAR restrictions lifted from civilian ownership and to go after the people it was intended to go after such as gun runners. Hey I guess the governments doesn't like competition.

Blu wrote:However to answer your question the answer to that would be no. Why? Does my location matter in some way? Or perhaps there is some point you are trying to make by asking your question.

Yes my point is that you are writing to the head of an organisation about their policy decisions, as a non-member, and expecting them to hop to it and make you their priority...

...not being a member, I wouldn't write to the head of the BASC demanding to know about some policy that I didn't agree with and expect a response...but then perhaps my expectations are lower and more realistic than yours...?

dromia wrote:Maybe it is because they have all been gagged by Mercer.

As I say, I can understand them wanting to be a bit 'cagey' - it must be a right PITA if every time you want to make an honest reply to a question you have to consider the possibility that it will be posted on a forum and then be automatically misinterpreted and criticised...

Yes my point is that you are writing to the head of an organisation about their policy decisions, as a non-member, and expecting them to hop to it and make you their priority...

I didn't expect anyone to do anything and even as a non-member I have every right to ask them their policies for any number of reasons. I also didn't expect anyone to make me a priority but at the same time I didn't expect the bullshit answer I received.

...not being a member, I wouldn't write to the head of the BASC demanding to know about some policy that I didn't agree with and expect a response...

Why not? So if the BASC was gagging it's people the same way the UK NRA seems to be, you'd be okay with that? Yep nothing like being open and honest and this is nothing like being open and honest. But the worst part of it is it's members like you accepting it.

but then perhaps my expectations are lower and more realistic than yours...?

Which would probably account for why every year sportsmen in the UK have something new imposed on them or something taken away. So hows those low expectations working out for you? You keep on being realistic Dougan and watch your chosen sport disappear piece by piece slowly and surely while your precious NRA puts out statements like stiff upper lips chaps and go with the flow, mustn't rock the boat what!

Careful with your apostrophes, oomans, or you may have a catastrophe...

It doesn't seem to matter whether you're an individual member or a secretary of an affiliated club the lack of response is disgraceful and indefensible.

As I've said before the organisation is preoccupied with justifying it's own existence, often disregarding the truth and the interests of the shooting community.

The General Council is a not very useful organisation. Clearly the NRA is really run by the Trustees and the Chief Executive.

Let's be quite frank here... the organisation is managed by inadequates whilst the NRA Council, the General Council and the Trustees contribute very little to the wider shooting community.