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Re: Obama and guns,what to expect!

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:33 pm
by John25
John25 wrote:I have just emailed The President, I have asked him if he will reduce the restrictions on 'recreational shooters' importing reloading components to the UK.
I have received a response from the White House part of which is:-

My plan gives law enforcement, schools, mental health professionals, and the public health community some of the tools they need to help reduce gun violence. These tools include strengthening the background check system, helping schools hire more resource officers and counselors and develop emergency preparedness plans, and ensuring mental health professionals know their options for reporting threats of violence.

And I directed the
Centers for Disease Control to study the best ways to reduce gun violence—because it is critical that we understand the science behind this public health crisis.


Unfortunately it doesn't seem to answer my question, it is a long email, I'll read it again but my answer isn't there.

Disease Control???? wtfwtf

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Re: Obama and guns,what to expect!

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:09 pm
by Chuck
John, You are having a laugh are you not. :roll:

Did you seriously write to him and more importantly did you REALLY expect a reply that would in any way be relevant. You should have followed the numerous posts and links, he does NOT like guns and will happily destroy an industry worth BILLIONS of $$$'s in the namke of his powergrabbing megalomania and warped political doctrine..

He runs guns to drug cartels and consorts with terrorists like the Muslim Brotherhood.

here's an extract from a recent inbox mesasage:

The "Plan B" alternative has three components: Fictitious “gun trafficking” legislation, so-called “mental health screenings” and “expanded background checks.”

And all are equally dangerous and designed with one goal in mind: national gun registration.


“Gun Trafficking”

So-called “Gun trafficking” is the gun grabbers’ latest scheme, and it’s flying fast under the radar.

The ultimate goal is to hand Obama's ATF goons the power to terrorize gun owners via sting operations, and get gun owners to start screaming for a national gun registry.

There’s Senator Patrick Leahy’s so-called Stop Illegal Trafficking in Firearms Act of 2013 (S. 443) and Kristin Gillibrand’s Gun Trafficking Prevention Act (S. 179) in the Senate, and then there’s the Scott Rigell/Carolyn Maloney Gun Trafficking Prevention Act (H.R. 452) in the House.

Unfortunately, S. 443 cleared the Judiciary Committee and could be on the Senate floor any day now.

More properly referred to as the Forced Gun Owner Registration Act, S. 443 imposes harsh sentences on gun owners – up to 15 years in prison – for buying a firearm to sell our give a "prohibited person."

Already, 150,000 of our nation’s veterans are considered “prohibited” just because they acknowledged stress on returning from war.

So just buying a shotgun for a son returning home from Afghanistan - so you could spend some time in the woods together hunting like the old days - could be enough to land you in jail for 15 years.

And since Barack Obama just issued an Executive Order calling on Attorney General Eric Holder to “review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun,” the definition of “prohibited” could change any day.

While there is some language claiming to protect folks who sell to "prohibited persons," it will almost be assuredly be abused by ATF agents anxious to nail gun owners to the wall.

The only way for law-abiding Second Amendment supporters to ultimately prove their innocence would be if every firearms transfer is signed off on by the Federal Government -- paving the way for a national gun registry.

And you and I both know so-called “gun registration” is the first step toward TOTAL GUN CONFISCATION!


“Mental Health Screenings”


The gun grabbers love to twist words to advance gun control. And “mental health screening” is just a ruse for creating a National No Gun Database.

Of course, the gun grabbers are willing to use virtually any excuse they can conjure up to put as many Americans as possible on their “mental health” list.

Have you ever served in the military or experienced a traumatic family situation like a death in the family?

If you’re prescribed anything at all - or even if you complain of stress to the wrong person - that could be enough for you to lose your Second Amendment rights.

38 states have some sort of mental health database, and they're already being used to strip law-abiding Americans of their Second Amendment rights.

In fact, studies show that over 100,000 military veterans have been stripped of their gun rights already just from acknowledging stress on returning from war.

And one former Surgeon General estimated that 46.4% of Americans will have mental health issues at some point in their lives!

That should give you some idea of just how many law-abiding Americans can be stripped of their gun rights with "mental health" charges alone.

Do we really want to strip nearly half of all Americans of their gun rights?

Of course not.

But you can bet President Obama does.

That’s why President Obama is planning to use provisions of his “Obamacare” bill to create the “mental health” database the gun grabbers’ want.

Not only that, but a number of Barack Obama’s 23 Executive Orders on “gun violence” have to do with developing ways to get the mental health records of every American into a national database - accessible by the ATF, FBI and other government agencies.

To the gun-grabbers, disarming half of America for life with a simple “mental health” database within a year or two’s time sounds like a dream come true!

The bad news is, this dangerous scheme has bipartisan support.

Republican Senators Lindsey Graham and Jeff Flake are “eyeing” legislation that would FORCE states to turn over mental health records to the federal government to be put into Barack Obama’s National No Gun Database.


“Expanded Background Checks”

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out the only way to enforce “background checks” is to hand the feds a record of EVERY firearm transferred through a Federal Firearms Licensee.

Of course, the gun grabbers claim federal officials destroy every record in the system after a set time, but do you really trust Barack Obama or Eric Holder to do so?

For example, in Pennsylvania, state officials were caught violating the law by keeping permanent records of “background checks” including the name of the gun owner and the specific gun purchased.

To call “background checks” anything but gun registration is a lie - and everyone knows gun registration leads to gun confiscation!

Besides, “expanding background checks” has nothing to do with the recent tragedy in Newtown.

A Justice Department survey found that 93% of handgun predators obtained their guns “off-the-record,” commonly by stealing them as the Connecticut shooter did.

None of these schemes are about stopping actual criminals.

They’re about taking away your rights.

Tom, this “Plan B” alternative is the gun grabbers’ new Triple Threat to take away your God-given right to keep and bear arms.

That’s why it’s critical you sign your “No Gun Deals” petition right away.

As I’ve told you, the National Association for Gun Rights will not sit by while the gun-grabbers assault our Second Amendment rights.

Instead, NAGR will EXPOSE them every step of the way. And right now, the National Association for Gun Rights is doing exactly that.

The good news is, anti-gun politicians in BOTH parties are feeling the heat.

They don’t know what to think about so many pro-gun Americans who have suddenly wised up to their games.

But the gun grabbers are trying to catch us sleeping.

That’s why it’s never been more important to stand up and fight back by signing your “No Gun Deals” petition IMMEDIATELY.

Your signed petition will send a loud-and-clear message to your Congressman and Senators that you won’t be fooled by the gun grabbers’ carefully crafted, sneaky anti-gun scheme.


Please act today!

For Freedom,

Dudley Brown
Executive Vice President

P.S. The most dangerous phase in the fight to defeat the gun grabbers’ all-out assault on our Second Amendment freedoms is upon us.

I’m talking about the gun control lobby’s “Plan B” – a clever scheme designed to sound more “reasonable” to the public than a total gun ban.

Re: Obama and guns,what to expect!

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:40 pm
by John25
Yes, I did email him, I asked him if he would release the shackles on small traders exporting reloading equipment and components to individuals and small busineses in the UK, given that he professes to belive in and want to continue with our 'special relationship'

I didn't expect an answer at all.

Of course, the question I asked was ignored. Politicians are the same on both sides of the pond, and I can't raise the enthusiasm to be upset, insulted or bothered to reply.

Re: Obama and guns,what to expect!

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:46 am
by Chuck
John, sorry if my question came across as rather hard, was meant to be rhetorical. But yes you are correct, he is a snake oil salesman (and also Gun Salesman of the year 2012) but as for special relationship..that only works when we crawl up their colon and follow them into whatever war they want to start.

That "man" is determined to screw the USA like some pimp with his bitch.

All is not lost though, Cameron is thinking of arming Syrian terrorists to overthrow Assad, so he may have some spare kit around when it all falls through. Kinda sucks doesn't it - our regime trusts Muslim terrorists more than you.

Re: Obama and guns,what to expect!

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:06 am
by John25
No sweat, I took no offence, had I been 'peeved' I would say so here; had I been offended I might have let you know :twisted:

Re: Obama and guns,what to expect!

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:09 am
by Chuck
:cheers: