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And where might we obtain some good fodder for the P14 ? Our usual supplier, Ammo-zone, is a tad pricey on 303...

meles meles wrote:We have a feeling that guns, being made of steel, are extremely magnetic. They attract each other. That's the only reason we can think of for yet another gun materialising in our safe

Ah, that's what it is - before getting a second cabinet, I found that you could get more in by putting some muzzle down - this seemed to work well...is that because they have negative and positive poles?

Nice one on the new aquisition ....I'm not sure it looks like a good one though....

Dougan wrote: Ah, that's what it is - before getting a second cabinet, ..

We're on our third...

Farmer Giles is in for a shock, come the cull....

Whoa, ooman, whoa...

We're digging the coal we'll use to smelt the ore we'll use to make the knife we'll use to sharpen our pencil...

saddler wrote:

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meles meles wrote:And where might we obtain some good fodder for the P14 ? Our usual supplier, Ammo-zone, is a tad pricey on 303...

You Load your own, unless you are lucky enough to find some Greek HXP from 68 or 73. In my opinion there is no decent factory made .303 any more. Privi and S&B will shoot ok out to 300yds (thats if holding the black is your goal, I like to hold the bull) but past that handloads are the only way to go. HPS sell .303 loaded with the Sierra 174 Match king but its nearly the same price as their .308.
My Winchester P14 will hold the bull at 900yds with handloads using the Sierra 174 Matchking or the Hornady 174 match bullet. I've tried Privi and S&B out to 800yds and to be honest it was a waste of time as they would only just hold the target screen.
A decent P14 should hold 2MOA and that is better than most SMLE's and No4s that are usually 2-4 MOA.

You Load your own, unless you are lucky enough to find some Greek HXP from 68 or 73. In my opinion there is no decent factory made .303 any more. Privi and S&B will shoot ok out to 300yds (thats if holding the black is your goal, I like to hold the bull) but past that handloads are the only way to go. HPS sell .303 loaded with the Sierra 174 Match king but its nearly the same price as their .308.
My Winchester P14 will hold the bull at 900yds with handloads using the Sierra 174 Matchking or the Hornady 174 match bullet. I've tried Privi and S&B out to 800yds and to be honest it was a waste of time as they would only just hold the target screen.
A decent P14 should hold 2MOA and that is better than most SMLE's and No4s that are usually 2-4 MOA.

What sort of powders loads are you using for your 900yds shooting.

Alpha1 wrote:

You Load your own, unless you are lucky enough to find some Greek HXP from 68 or 73. In my opinion there is no decent factory made .303 any more. Privi and S&B will shoot ok out to 300yds (thats if holding the black is your goal, I like to hold the bull) but past that handloads are the only way to go. HPS sell .303 loaded with the Sierra 174 Match king but its nearly the same price as their .308.
My Winchester P14 will hold the bull at 900yds with handloads using the Sierra 174 Matchking or the Hornady 174 match bullet. I've tried Privi and S&B out to 800yds and to be honest it was a waste of time as they would only just hold the target screen.
A decent P14 should hold 2MOA and that is better than most SMLE's and No4s that are usually 2-4 MOA.

What sort of powders loads are you using for your 900yds shooting.

In my P14 I use 43g of TR140 behind a 174 SMK. This load is safe in my P14 but I would not use that high a load in a No4 or SMLE. I've tried N140 but for long range in .303 could not get consistant results. N150 may work better than N140 for long range with 174 gr bullets. Brass is HXP that has been reloaded several times and only neck sized. Use my load data with caution and use normal procedures for working up loads.

Steve E wrote:
In my P14 I use 43g of TR140 behind a 174 SMK. This load is safe in my P14 but I would not use that high a load in a No4 or SMLE. I've tried N140 but for long range in .303 could not get consistant results. N150 may work better than N140 for long range with 174 gr bullets. Brass is HXP that has been reloaded several times and only neck sized. Use my load data with caution and use normal procedures for working up loads.

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