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Re: Have they broke me?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:28 pm
by dromia
Didn't he also advocate holding the rifle with a vice like, white knuckle grip?

It seemed to work well for him.

Re: Have they broke me?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:30 pm
by Chuck
I would go with rifleman on this.....practice and more practice....for high recoil guns the normal grip is thought better, especially on a shotgun...

Re: Have they broke me?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:31 pm
by rox
Watcher wrote:its instructive to see the angle he suggests.
I think that's more down to the ideas of the day, rather than what suited the particular rifle. That said, there are those who totally ignore the ideas of today and achieve brilliance.

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Re: Have they broke me?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:36 pm
by Chuck
Find a method that works for you and stick to it....works for me.

Re: Have they broke me?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:39 pm
by Michael Sproul
That is quite an angle and very much different to how I'd normally shoot prone, interesting thanks.

Re: Have they broke me?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:44 pm
by Watcher
dromia wrote:Didn't he also advocate holding the rifle with a vice like, white knuckle grip?

It seemed to work well for him.
Yes; looks bloody painful but in those days, if it didn't hurt, it was probably wrong!

Re: Have they broke me?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:50 pm
by rox

Michael Sproul wrote:What are people's thoughts on pistol Vs standard, I imagine for running about a pistol grip would be advantages but there's no real accuracy benefit one way or the other once accustomed for general shooting on the range?
I believe that the primary idea of the pistol grip, as well as the thumbhole and the deep cut of later Anschutz style wooden stocks, is so that the direction of trigger pull is as close as possible to parallel with the bore-line, to minimise forces that may contribute to moving the rifle off the natural point of aim. It also helps to promote a more natural/relaxed and straight wrist of the trigger hand when in position.

I grew up with the Anschutz style stock on the .22's of my boyhood days, used the same style on my early TR rifles (suffering the stock breakages that went with them before Thumbholes were permitted in competition) and now use one stock with a pistol grip for .22, 300m and TR (and MR, if I ever get around to it).

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Re: Have they broke me?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:36 pm
by DL.
Michael Sproul wrote:It's a strange feeling for sure, I think it's my wrist position more than anything that feels weird.

Watcher, I think you may be right about body position. My standing seems OK with these rifles but due to range regs I can't shoot prone so I've been doing most of my shooting sitting (on a seat) which is also strange for me! I still think it'd feel weird prone but perhaps I could compensate better?

What are people's thoughts on pistol Vs standard, I imagine for running about a pistol grip would be advantages but there's no real accuracy benefit one way or the other once accustomed for general shooting on the range?

Thanks for all the replies, didn't really think it would be a hot topic!

Based in Cumbria but don't have an FAC yet so still at the mercy of my air rifle and club guns.
Mike, there's a lot of good rifles out there, so you'll find a solution - here's one of my favourite's a .22Lr Finnfire.

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