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Re: Full bore pistol and SLR petition

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:57 pm
by John25
Sorry guys (and Gals) I have a big problem with the last paragraph of the petition.

An appeal procedure (heard by a jury) should be introduced so that any ex-offender has the chance to obtain an FAC, regardless of what crimes he committed and when.

I can't therefore sign this.

:bad:

Re: Full bore pistol and SLR petition

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:00 pm
by Christel
John25 wrote:Sorry guys (and Gals) I have a big problem with the last paragraph of the petition.

An appeal procedure (heard by a jury) should be introduced so that any ex-offender has the chance to obtain an FAC, regardless of what crimes he committed and when.

I can't therefore sign this.

:bad:
It struck me as odd as well but the "heard by a jury" hopefully should mean a very good filter to who gets approved.

Re: Full bore pistol and SLR petition

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:24 pm
by Robin128
John25 wrote:Sorry guys (and Gals) I have a big problem with the last paragraph of the petition.

An appeal procedure (heard by a jury) should be introduced so that any ex-offender has the chance to obtain an FAC, regardless of what crimes he committed and when.

I can't therefore sign this.

:bad:
Likewise.

Sorry.

:(

Re: Full bore pistol and SLR petition

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:01 pm
by Dougan
No problem with SLRs or pistols if a person shoots with a reputable club - but I'm with John25 too...the last part makes it unsignable...

Re: Full bore pistol and SLR petition

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:39 pm
by Scotsgun
I'll agree to support each and every shooter, regardless of class or type of firearm, provided i consider them fit and safe. I can't support this petition as i consider some who would benefit from such a change to be unfit.

If i were a suspiscious man, i'd wonder if the writer of this petition has been convicted of a violent crime?

Re: Full bore pistol and SLR petition

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:44 pm
by Robin128
That thought had crossed my mind too.

:roll:

Re: Full bore pistol and SLR petition

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:21 pm
by Tower75
Maybe we should write our own? :squirrel:

Re: Full bore pistol and SLR petition

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:06 am
by Mike357
Our own petition, now that is a good idea. :clap:

Re: Full bore pistol and SLR petition

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:13 am
by Suppressor
The way I read the last part is that FACs should be granted (in the same manner as a SGC) unless the person has a conviction for a violent crime , with an appeal procedure. That's sounds nothing but fair and rational.

I've heard of FACs not being granted due to petty things like cautions over cannabis or trip ups with firearms legislation such as having a few rounds of .22lr not designated on a certificate. 'Criminal' doesn't always mean bad person! :D

Re: Full bore pistol and SLR petition

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:33 am
by Porcupine
If you're safe to be released from prison, you're safe to own a gun. If you're not safe to be released from prison then you shouldn't be. Of course that isn't necessarily how prison works unfortunately, but then a lot of people are made criminals who shouldn't be so that cuts both ways.

We don't ban people from owning knives, bats, ligatures, cans of petrol or anything else people use to kill other people. We don't even ban people from driving for life unless they actually kill someone - and even then it is only a ban from driving in public, not from owning a car or driving on private land like a race track.