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targetman wrote:those at the top of the results lists would be there whatever they shot with but do tend to buy the latest and most expensive kit.

I don't quite agree. There are almost none of the top level winners, Palma squad etc, who are using metal stocks, and they are extremely rarely seen riding in the chair so far (maybe once, twice?). There are lots of Swings and Paramounts in evidence amongst these guys and gals.

targetman wrote:Personally I think that Target Rifle has become the "Formula 1" of shooting

Actually I'd say that F-Open is Formula 1. Massive budgets being spent to develop technology, and a massive dependance on technology throughout. Barrels shot out in less than 1000 rounds etc etc.

targetman wrote:Over the years the move to better, purpose made, rifles has been needed to wring the last drop of performance out of the supplied ammunition at Bisley, RG ammunition was always of dubious quality, but at least a decent rifle would get the best out it....thus the new breed of target rifle, all solid actions and long barrels (back to the discussion on stainless -V- chrome-moly) found favour.
With the new ammunition, RUAG, the advantages are somewhat less defined, even a tatty old target rifle like the sort that most us use will perform well with excellent (and pricey) ammunition, even my old Schmidt-Rubin will put in the odd 50.10V with HPS ammo. With handloads even the oldest and outdated rifle can shoot well.

I know people tried hard to wring performance out of RG, but I think it was rather futile, but now with quality commercial ammo it's possible to see the difference between a first class rifle and the next best thing (making it worthwhile having the best, if you can make use of it). With RG the difference was masked - whether you combine a 1st class rifle or a 2nd class rifle with agricultural ammo you have an agricultural solution.

I am sure I could improvise at MR and I should have a spare space in the cabinet coming up soon (fingers crossed) Something wooden and traditional would be fun to shoot however I am equally sure I could just bung a longer barrel on my AI/AE and be able to have a crack at it, I think the only thing letting it down is the lack of 'scope magnification.

Erm.... plus my shooting of course!

Robin128 wrote:Chuck up 10 clays at once by hand and see how many you can hit....now wait for the frowns from the old boys with the bushy brows and puffing Petersons... :lol:

I dare you!

I'm going to have a go at this on Saturday, i've been meaning to do it for a while but just kept forgetting! I think throwing 10 clays in a fashion they can actually be shot will be the hardest part!

As for a different type of shooting; wild boar - wahts stopping me - the cost! :shock:

ovenpaa wrote:I am sure I could improvise at MR and I should have a spare space in the cabinet coming up soon (fingers crossed) Something wooden and traditional would be fun to shoot however I am equally sure I could just bung a longer barrel on my AI/AE and be able to have a crack at it, I think the only thing letting it down is the lack of 'scope magnification.

Erm.... plus my shooting of course!

I've often thought I might try MR either when I've mastered TR or when I can't walk to the point with my kit anymore. I'm expecting the latter to precede the former but I have a threaded MR barrel in the cabinet in readiness. A lack of magnification is also my main problem, since I have only Mk I's with 1x.

Have a go Mark...but not on a CPSA range.

:)

ovenpaa wrote: Something wooden and traditional would be fun to shoot

Good to see that your taste in rifles is beginning to mature. :lol:

We used to walk the fields with a clay thrower which was a plastic thing that you hooked a clay in and then swung around to release, it never quite reached our expectations and the angle of release was iffy so we took a bag full of clays and threw them in the air, personally I never thought they got high enough but it kept us amused.

dromia wrote:

ovenpaa wrote: Something wooden and traditional would be fun to shoot

Good to see that your taste in rifles is beginning to mature. :lol:

Actually I think it is, I still maintain "Only accurate rifles are interesting" and I need a scope as my eyes are not so young but having said that I am starting to think I have moved too far from shooting roots and enjoy half a dozen shots at 5-600 yards with a No4 or P14 or similar SOR as much as I do shooting a days competition with my 7mm.

Accuracy is relative not absolute.

ovenpaa wrote:We used to walk the fields with a clay thrower which was a plastic thing that you hooked a clay in and then swung around to release, it never quite reached our expectations and the angle of release was iffy so we took a bag full of clays and threw them in the air, personally I never thought they got high enough but it kept us amused.

It's all about fun. Nothing has drawn me away from English Sporting...such a variety.

Pigeons follow their own rules to escape...they will be on the corn soon.