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Blackstuff wrote:Presumably they aren't in the UK

EDIT: After reading the legislation it would appear that its the airgun itself, rather than the cartridges that are prohibited so those things look like they'd be legal here

They are in Bern.

And i didn't say they were

My understanding was the Brocock type was allowed for existing owners after the ban however it was illegal to sell them under any section classification. I did know of one person who had a couple of examples and quite recently I shot a Co2 powered replica service pistol that utilised a cartridge with a small projectile wedged in the end and when the trigger was pulled a charge of gas held in a cylinder in the grip vented through and fired the projectile. At the time I did wonder where such replicas figured within legislation. I assume they would be less than 1 Joule to be legal.

Interesting concept for training though if the pressurised cartridges were legal to FAC holders.

The legislation was specifically for self contained gas cartridge air guns. If they're powered by CO2 bulbs, a tank in the grip etc, then they were exempt. This is quite a good explanation;

https://www.cambs.police.uk/firearms/prohibited.asp

Ovenpaa wrote:My understanding was the Brocock type was allowed for existing owners after the ban however it was illegal to sell them under any section classification. I did know of one person who had a couple of examples and quite recently I shot a Co2 powered replica service pistol that utilised a cartridge with a small projectile wedged in the end and when the trigger was pulled a charge of gas held in a cylinder in the grip vented through and fired the projectile. At the time I did wonder where such replicas figured within legislation. I assume they would be less than 1 Joule to be legal.

Interesting concept for training though if the pressurised cartridges were legal to FAC holders.

The Nagant CO2 revolver sold be Rusmilitary works like that with the CO2 contained in the grip flowing through dummy rounds that hold a .177 pellet

nice looking revolver


but this is what am on about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OelyJz3dFDI&t=26s

My post above was more in response to Ovenpaa's post

Your best bet is to put "chamber adapters" along with the desired calibre/calibres into Google, there is loads of info on them particularly on Us sites where they seem to be most popular

A .223 case with just a primer shoots a .22 airgun pellet well, or you could easily adapt the case to take a shotgun primer.

what are you looking to get out of it? lower powered rounds for 50-100yrd range? 5gr of bullseye with a lighter boolit loaded (for 303 it seems a lot of people like lead bullets intended for 30m1 carbine.

cheaper ammo than factory rifle? is 32acp that much cheaper? plus you have to then buy a few of the inserts. and folk like C&G firearms want to see a slot for them on your ticket.

snayperskaya wrote:

Ovenpaa wrote:My understanding was the Brocock type was allowed for existing owners after the ban however it was illegal to sell them under any section classification. I did know of one person who had a couple of examples and quite recently I shot a Co2 powered replica service pistol that utilised a cartridge with a small projectile wedged in the end and when the trigger was pulled a charge of gas held in a cylinder in the grip vented through and fired the projectile. At the time I did wonder where such replicas figured within legislation. I assume they would be less than 1 Joule to be legal.

Interesting concept for training though if the pressurised cartridges were legal to FAC holders.

The Nagant CO2 revolver sold be Rusmilitary works like that with the CO2 contained in the grip flowing through dummy rounds that hold a .177 pellet

This houses a co2 canister in the grip, the gas just runs through the "casing" so it isn't a self contained unit.

One of the guys at my club has a few air pistols that use the same system, (buying extra "cases" can be a bit costly though.

yup cheaper/range from 50-100yds sort of thing,