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Re: Maybe starting reloading from scratch
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:40 pm
by the running man
rubbish rubbish rubbish,if you are reloading rifle ammo,u want a single stage press,you want to be doing one at a time............if you are banging out a ton of .44 for gallery rifle then,by all means get a progressive...by the way the best press this planet produces is a dillon press.......but as said above seek advice on everything,get involved.......check out allwoodgunshop,hes a great tip top guy! and he does courses for the beginer...good luck my freind....
Re: Maybe starting reloading from scratch
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:51 pm
by Alpha1
I would recomend you start off with a single station press especially if you want to build to a high spec.
A turret press or progresive is ok if you just want to churn it out.
Check out the Lee cast press.
The RCBS rock chucker.
The Lyman crusher any of these will do the job.
Re: Maybe starting reloading from scratch
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:12 pm
by dirtbag
the running man wrote:rubbish rubbish rubbish,if you are reloading rifle ammo,u want a single stage press,you want to be doing one at a time............if you are banging out a ton of .44 for gallery rifle then,by all means get a progressive...by the way the best press this planet produces is a dillon press.......but as said above seek advice on everything,get involved.......check out allwoodgunshop,hes a great tip top guy! and he does courses for the beginer...good luck my freind....
Thanks mate, I will have a look !
Re: Maybe starting reloading from scratch
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:07 am
by rox
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the running man wrote:rubbish rubbish rubbish,if you are reloading rifle ammo,u want a single stage press
Are you talking about loading for Benchrest, or for disciplines like TR etc?
What specific problems have you had with ammo loaded on good progressive/turret presses, and with which models of press?
Interested, as I'm about to start an experiment.
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Re: Maybe starting reloading from scratch
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:21 am
by the running man
I have no probs with progressive presses. They all have their quirks,apart from the 650 dillon! ,I use a loadmaster for my .44 and my 45lc,it works well but is a bit fiddley...
My main concern is that this chap is starting reloading from scratch,so therefore in order to learn it from the bottom up,he wants to start with a single stage press,ie decap 50,prime 50,powder 50,seat 50 each one becoming a thing of beauty!
Those that advise jumping straight in with a progressive or turret press are insane,and irresponsible,as experienced reloaders know only to well what can go wrong. Learning on a single stage is the best start.
Fyi,I load rifle ammo on a single stage dillon,always have,always will. With my galleryrifle ammo,I churn it out on mass on the loadmaster,1000 rounds in 3 hours.
Re: Maybe starting reloading from scratch
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:32 am
by dodgyrog
the running man wrote:rubbish rubbish rubbish,if you are reloading rifle ammo,u want a single stage press,you want to be doing one at a time............if you are banging out a ton of .44 for gallery rifle then,by all means get a progressive...by the way the best press this planet produces is a dillon press.......but as said above seek advice on everything,get involved.......check out allwoodgunshop,hes a great tip top guy! and he does courses for the beginer...good luck my freind....
+1 on the Dillon - I've got a few of them.
Re: Maybe starting reloading from scratch
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:35 am
by ovenpaa
The only progressive I have used was for shotgun cartridges which introduced me to a world of problems I could never quite resolve. These days I use a Lee classic cast iron single stage. The press is hugely robust and was supposed to be something I would replace when I had more money but seems to be doing very well to this day. I am often tempted by something 'better' but given the price of presses in the UK I have a feeling it will stop with me for a few more years.
On the subject of Lee presses I have a cheap cast aluminium Lee press that I picked up second hand, it has an equally cheap Lee bullet seater permanently set in it for building 147 grain .308 ammunition to what I call milsurp standard, the press and die still produces some of the most accurate rounds I have ever built and cost sub GBP25 for the two items
Re: Maybe starting reloading from scratch
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:57 am
by rox
the running man wrote:My main concern is that this chap is starting reloading from scratch,so therefore in order to learn it from the bottom up,he wants to start with a single stage press
Certainly agree re learning from scratch - definately start on a single stage.
I loaded quite a few thousand rifle rounds on a single stage last year, but then I was a full time shooter. Now I've returned to 'real' work I don't have the luxury of spending at least half a day loading for each full day shooting. Being a TR shooter there's arguably not much to be gained by shrinking groups below about 1/2 a minute (which can be achieved with commercial ammo anyway - loaded on progressives). But that still leaves me the option to make a round with many improvements over the commercial one and for half the price.
btw: what are the quirks of the 1050?
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Re: Maybe starting reloading from scratch
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:26 am
by the running man
1050? Sorry? Dunno wat that is! Maybe I know it by another name.
Re: Maybe starting reloading from scratch
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:40 am
by rox
the running man wrote:They all have their quirks,apart from the 650 dillon!
rox wrote:what are the quirks of the 1050?
the running man wrote:1050? Sorry? Dunno wat that is! Maybe I know it by another name.
The 1050 is Dillon's 8 stage progressive.
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