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Re: What to do with messed up live primers? Disposal wise.

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:23 pm
by Dark Skies
ArcofZen wrote:Am I the only one who throws them in the (outside) fire?

Maybe I should grow up! lol
I do that too.

Re: What to do with messed up live primers? Disposal wise.

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:18 pm
by knewmans
I keep a small container of acid and drop them in. Completely breaks them down.

Re: What to do with messed up live primers? Disposal wise.

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:19 pm
by Alpha1
What kind of acid?.

Re: What to do with messed up live primers? Disposal wise.

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:46 pm
by dromia
Muriatic (Hydrochloric) acid.

Re: What to do with messed up live primers? Disposal wise.

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:55 pm
by knewmans
Exactly

Re: What to do with messed up live primers? Disposal wise.

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:33 pm
by Alpha1
What do you do with the Hydrochloric acid to me thats a bigger problem to dispose of than the primers why double your troubles.
The Hydrochloric acid Im used to dealing with comes in road tankers and is stored in rubber lined storage tanks. If it isnt it eats through mild steel and makes a awfull mess. It also fumes especialy if you get water on it and is wicked to work with and very bad for your heath it also burns the skin and if you get it in your eyes your in trouble.

I will stick to throwing them in the bin.

Manufactures description:
Hydrochloric acid risk assessment
Acute Effects: Hydrochloric acid is corrosive to the eyes, skin, and mucous membranes. Acute inhalation exposure may cause coughing, hoarseness, inflammation and ulceration of the respiratory tract, chest pain, and pulmonary edema in humans. (1-4)

Hazard Communication Sheet
HYDROCHLORIC ACID (>=10% and <25%) HCl
DESCRIPTION Colourless liquid with pungent odour. Miscible with water.
CAS: 7647-01-0. UN number: 1789.
HEALTH HAZARDS IRRITANT: Irritating to the eyes, skin & respiratory system
Eye contact with liquid causes pain and irritation.
Exposure to high vapour/mist concentrations causes lung damage
(pulmonary oedema) which may be fatal. Symptoms (coughing,
shortness of breath) may be delayed for some hours after exposure ceases.
Vapour irritates the eyes and respiratory tract. Liquid causes skin irritation
and prolonged contact may cause burns and irritant dermatitis.
Swallowing causes severe irritation and tissue destruction of the esophagus
and digestive tract which may be fatal.
Repeated exposure to high concentrations of acid mist causes dental erosion.
FIRST-AID Inhalation: Remove from source of exposure. If breathing stops or shows signs of failing
apply artificial respiration. Use oxygen if breathing is laboured. Obtain medical help.
Skin Contact: Remove contaminated clothing and flush affected area with water for
at least 15 minutes. Treat patient as for inhalation. Obtain medical help.
Eyes: Flood with eyewash or water for at least 15 minutes. Obtain medical help.
Ingestion: Wash out mouth with water. Treat as for inhalation. Obtain medical help.
SAFETY HAZARDS REACTS VIOLENTLY with oxidising agents forming toxic gas (chlorine).
REACTS with base metals forming combustible gas (hydrogen).
INCOMPATIBLE with materials such as cyanides, sulphides, sulphites, and
formaldehyde. A strong mineral acid reacting vigorously with strong bases,
metals, metal oxides, hydroxides, amines, carbonates and other alkaline
materials. Store separately from oxidising materials.
FIRE NOT COMBUSTIBLE
Heating produces corrosive fumes.
SPILLAGE Refer to local spillage/emergency procedures.
Large spillage will generate corrosive mist on air contact which may require control
with water fog/spray or alcohol resistant foam. Liquid can be absorbed using
sand/proprietary adsorbent or transferred to a suitable container. Contaminated
adsorbent should be transferred into a double polythene lined or other suitable
container and disposed of as contaminated waste. Clean up spills immediately,
observing precautions in the Exposure Controls section.
EXPOSURE
CONTROLS
CONTAINMENT LEVEL 2
Refer to local procedures/risk assessment for
details of personal protective equipment
requirements. Eye Protection and Chemical
Protective Clothing suitable for protection
against liquids must be worn where there is risk
of body contact. Respiratory Protective
Equipment and Local Exhaust Ventilation may
be required to protect against vapour.
OCCUPATIONAL
EXPOSURE LIMIT
Health & Safety Executive : Workplace Exposur Limit (Hydrogen Chloride)
8-Hour TWA : None 15 m

Re: What to do with messed up live primers? Disposal wise.

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:27 pm
by HALODIN
Out of interest what does a messed up primer look like? I use the RCBS hand-primer and I've never had one.

Re: What to do with messed up live primers? Disposal wise.

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:41 pm
by bradaz11
I touched off a pile of mixed powder to find there was a prime in it. That scared the poo out of me. Not to mention almost took my eye out. Luckily my blink reflex is pretty sharp

Re: What to do with messed up live primers? Disposal wise.

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:55 pm
by Alpha1
Why would you touch off a mixture of powder. .?

Re: What to do with messed up live primers? Disposal wise.

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:04 pm
by Pesty
Alpha1 wrote:Why would you touch off a mixture of powder. .?
If he's anything like me he spill it all over the floor 5mith scoops it up and sets fire to it wrapped in paper. Never thought if adding the primers :)