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Re: So what's .303 got going for it?
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:34 pm
by meles meles
Ooh, it seems we is ! Why didn't that cartridge catch on in Europe ?
Re: So what's .303 got going for it?
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:36 pm
by dromia
You still haven't explained what you see as rim problems.
Re: So what's .303 got going for it?
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:38 pm
by Sandgroper
meles meles wrote:Ooh, it seems we is ! Why didn't that cartridge catch on in Europe ?
Probably because it wasn't adopted by any European Armies because they already had suitable cartridges.
Re: So what's .303 got going for it?
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:51 pm
by meles meles
"You still haven't explained what you see as rim problems."
Rimmed cartridges can, if carelessly loaded, lock together and jam. Also, they would require a new bolt face and extractor for our DTA...
Re: So what's .303 got going for it?
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:38 pm
by snayperskaya
meles meles wrote:"You still haven't explained what you see as rim problems."
Rimmed cartridges can, if carelessly loaded, lock together and jam. Also, they would require a new bolt face and extractor for our DTA...
So load correctly then!......I load my 54r Mosin stripper clips using the correct technique and don't have a rim lock problem.
If it locks due to "careless loading" that's operator error, not a fault of the cartridge.
Re: So what's .303 got going for it?
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:26 am
by safetyfirst
I'd have thought that as a battle rifle cartridge, anything in the design that can lead to operator error is a significant issue given!
Re: So what's .303 got going for it?
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:27 am
by safetyfirst
Sorry for the extra given. I can no longer edit posts in "An application".
Please re-use the spare given in another post.
Re: So what's .303 got going for it?
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:23 am
by snayperskaya
safetyfirst wrote:I'd have thought that as a battle rifle cartridge, anything in the design that can lead to operator error is a significant issue given!
It would appear that the British Tommy and Russian Ivan didn't have much problem over the years!, and a lot of .303 and 54r still being used in combat around the world.
Re: So what's .303 got going for it?
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:09 am
by safetyfirst
Oh I'm sure our lads had a jam from time to time that could have been avoided....
Re: So what's .303 got going for it?
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:13 am
by dromia
It obviously was not a problem or they would have changed it.
It went a long way to helping us win two world wars so history contradicts your view.
I see plenty of jams with rimless cartridges so an non issue.
For automatic firearms design I can see some benefit in the rimless cartridge.