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Re: Emergencies on the range - how prepared are you?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:20 pm
by froggy
Maybe individuals would attend such course for their own knowledge ? I did the airborne basic combat medic course but it is back as a civilian that it came very handy twice when I didn't expected .
That sort of knowledge is always useless until the day you actually need it ;)

Re: Emergencies on the range - how prepared are you?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:18 pm
by Chuck
There probably would be interest from a handful of the usual volunteers but unless the club was also willing to stump up for the extra equipment (and keep it current/in date) that would be needed to put such training into practice then I don't think it would be worth it.
Would be more cost effective than having to fight the aggrieved relative of someone who has been injured.

Certainly the actual course itself would be worthwhile - just like insusrance, have it and hope it's not needed. It's as froggy says.

Re: Emergencies on the range - how prepared are you?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:39 pm
by 5thGen
I hold FAW and FPOS-I with High Threat Trauma and Remote Medicine extended skills.

The course is aimed at close protection operators in hostile environments.

I bring my kit with me to the range, and have volunteered to be the clubs first aider.

Re: Emergencies on the range - how prepared are you?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:43 pm
by 5thGen
froggy wrote:Well... I always carry aspirins & sticky plasters, does that count ?
and if all of that fails I can sing a mean & moving "Ich hatt einen Kameraden" in French, but not so well in German O:-)

If anybody interested, I am trying to put together a "tactical trauma" training class (*) latter this year or early next year. Kit is useless unless you can use it properly with a minimum of training.

(*) in plain English : "what am I gonna do if somebody gets shot ?"

Foul language removed by admin, take heed of the forum rules
Froggy - am a probationary member of HPRPC and (one of) the First Aiders - let's chat!

Re: Emergencies on the range - how prepared are you?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:43 pm
by Les
My club has got a full first aid kit, including a de-fibrilator, and many of the members are first aid/medically trained. I'm reasonably confident that should somebody ever get on the wrong end of a bullet, and it isn't immediately terminal, there should be a better than average chance of recovery. That's the hope, anyway! :good:

Re: Emergencies on the range - how prepared are you?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:19 pm
by froggy
Awesome 5thGen :good:
sent you an PM

Re: Emergencies on the range - how prepared are you?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:54 pm
by 5thGen
froggy wrote:Awesome 5thGen :good:
sent you an PM
Can't respond to your message as a new member - could you send me your email / phone?

Re: Emergencies on the range - how prepared are you?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:01 pm
by toffe wrapper
tackb wrote:i have first aid training but not specifically in gunshot wounds so I would treat them with the knowledge I have. I carry army field dressings as the ones you normally buy are woefully inadequate for a major injury (found out through experience!)

I'd be more concerned with heart attacks with the age and fitness demographic of most of our shooters.
tackb
I will get a body bag & a shovel put in with the stretcher that will cover all fatalities. It will be less paperwork in the long run. lol

Re: Emergencies on the range - how prepared are you?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:22 pm
by meles meles
toffe wrapper wrote:
tackb
I will get a body bag & a shovel put in with the stretcher that will cover all fatalities. It will be less paperwork in the long run. lol
Oi ! No you don't ! We don't want waste oomans buried in our attic ! Underground is our domain: cart the corpses off and set fire to 'em !

Re: Emergencies on the range - how prepared are you?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:05 pm
by Odd Job
The problem with gunshot wounds is that the damage is often unpredictable and distant from any surface wounds. See Case 5 here:

http://tinyurl.com/hhhyz6n

I've seen more than 3000 gunshot wounds as a radiographer, but that's at a trauma unit, not at the scene.
Although the shooting outside the Royal Free Hospital in 2004 was very fresh since I heard the shots as I was coming out of the hospital and I saw the perps riding away on a motorcycle. I had to stop a number 24 bus from riding over evidence (a 9x19mm cartridge case)...
Two people were shot, and they ran straight into the A&E. Less than 50 yards from the scene of the shooting to the resus bay!