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dromia wrote:
The best use of the powder measure is in conjunction with a good set of balance beam scales and the Target Master trickler, that combination is the fastest and most accurate powder dispensing system I know of with every charge being a weighed charge. Set the dispenser to throw a charge a few 1/10 ths of a grain under your load and let the Target Master trickle up to the correct weight.

That's pretty much what I have done, I used the Lee Safety scales and a Lyman trickler to bring the charge up to weight and double checked it on a digital scale and was bang on at 42.3 grains.

if you are comparing a dipper to the ppm with extruded powder i'd expect it to be off, as the ppm has a different dia to the dipper. if it was same dia, and so therefore same height as the dipper, i'd expect it to be bang on.

but as it will be different, the extruded sticks will sit differently and so have a different volume.

i'd expect something like trueblue to measure like for like dipper to disk to ppm

I use N140 for all my milsurp rifles and use the perfect powder measure and have never had a problem, I measure every 10th on the beam scales and it seems to be ok but then I'm not match loading like the F class people I know that seem to have unlimited funds and buy the best of everything.

I have loaded several thousand rounds with a Lee Auto Disk sat atop a Lee 4-hole turret press. I fitted to optional Lee micro adjustable charge bar. Powder is typically Hodgdens HP-38 for .38/357 & 9mm. Seems to metre just fine. I also use an RCBS balance scale to set up the Auto Disk and sample every so many cases.

A little off topic so sorry for the slight hijack but how come the RCBS measure is so much more than the Lee one?
Quality? Accuracy? Anything?

Excellent quality control, build quality and consistency along with a genuine lifetime warranty regardless of owner.

To compare the Lee build quality to RCBS, Lyman, Redding, Belding and Mull, Harrel etc. is comparing apple and oranges.

dromia wrote:Excellent quality control, build quality and consistency along with a genuine lifetime warranty regardless of owner.

To compare the Lee build quality to RCBS, Lyman, Redding, Belding and Mull, Harrel etc. is comparing apple and oranges.

Thanks for that Dromia.

I use my Lee PPM for all of my pistol calibre target loads with Titegroup and find the consistency very good if I keep my stroke roughly the same..........I've yet to try it with any of the rifle powders like H4895

I use one of these...........ex analytical lab. and around 45 years old. Bought a couple of years ago after faffing around with beam and electronic "reloading scales", fully serviced and calibrated for the princely sum of £105.
Fully mechanical, apart from the scale illumination.
Accurate to 3 decimal places, but weighs in grams.
Conversion to grains is easy, if you must. I stick to grams. After 40 odd years using one of these while making a living, I find it easier.
I can weigh 50 charges in <25 mins.
0.01 grams = 0.15 grains, and these balances resolve 0.001 grams, or 0.015 grains.
Definitely a no-brainer for accurate and fast weighing IMHO.

Pete

Pete wrote:

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I use one of these...........ex analytical lab. and around 45 years old. Bought a couple of years ago after faffing around with beam and electronic "reloading scales", fully serviced and calibrated for the princely sum of £105.
Fully mechanical, apart from the scale illumination.
Accurate to 3 decimal places, but weighs in grams.
Conversion to grains is easy, if you must. I stick to grams. After 40 odd years using one of these while making a living, I find it easier.
I can weigh 50 charges in <25 mins.
0.01 grams = 0.15 grains, and these balances resolve 0.001 grams, or 0.015 grains.
Definitely a no-brainer for accurate and fast weighing IMHO.

Pete

Lab scales are a good idea

The set I use at work can weigh down to 0.005 mg (tiny amounts) but they retailed at over £10,000 when we got them from Mettler Toledo about 6 years ago.