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Re: Question on: Off-Set Scopes for SMLE and Ishapore

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:10 pm
by redcat
Alpha1 wrote:
Any one who puts a scout mount on a smle wants flogging within a inch of his/her life then hanging up from there dangly bits.
Why?

Redcat

Re: Question on: Off-Set Scopes for SMLE and Ishapore

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:29 pm
by dromia
Because he is a sadist.

It is the only explanation for the posts he subjects us to on here.

Re: Question on: Off-Set Scopes for SMLE and Ishapore

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:15 pm
by snayperskaya
Alpha1 wrote:You can buy none gun smithing mounts for the no4 no drilling or tapping is necesary I think you can get them for the smile as well. I am thinking of converting a nagant to sniper configuration I'm currently checking out mounts and bent bolts from the USA.
I had a M44 Mosin carbine that had one of those non-gunsmith mounts that fitted in place of the rear sight and had a LER NcStar scope.......the scope very quickly fell to bits and the mount was awful!.It was very quickly changed for an original rear sight leaf.Personally if I was to scope a Mosin I'd use an original PU or PEM mount, and drill and tap accordingly.

Re: Question on: Off-Set Scopes for SMLE and Ishapore

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:21 pm
by bradaz11
I would think the original SMLE sight position would be considered 'scout type' iron sights anyway as they are so far forward. at the end of the day, it's your rifle, do what you want to it.

i wounder how hard it would be to remove the rear sight and knock up something railed that would go in its place?

Re: Question on: Off-Set Scopes for SMLE and Ishapore

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:36 pm
by Sixshot6
dromia wrote:Because he is a sadist.

It is the only explanation for the posts he subjects us to on here.
I'll admit it, I'm up there with Saddler for deviancy. Its good for the soul. Plus without ideas we are nothing, we grow by sharing ideas.

Re: Question on: Off-Set Scopes for SMLE and Ishapore

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:36 pm
by Alpha1
Most of the ones I have seen replace the rear sight I have never seen a Smle scout mount. I'm not saying you can not get them just that all the ones I have seen fit in place of the rear sight. I have a couple that fit on the No4 in place of the rear sight I think I have posted pictures of them on here before. I sold one to a guy in Scotland and he still uses it on his No4 regularly.

Re: Question on: Off-Set Scopes for SMLE and Ishapore

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:07 pm
by Tower75
Friend of mine in 'Merica sent me this link. No gunsmitting needed. Alas it's for a No.4, and it doesn't offset the scope, but we're on the right track.

http://www.brownells.com/optics-mountin ... d1502.aspx

Re: Question on: Off-Set Scopes for SMLE and Ishapore

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:38 pm
by Rearlugs
S&K do a no-drill mount for the SMLE - it wedges in the charger bridge at one end (like those for the No4 action), and has a metal band that passes around the barrel at the front. You do have to strip the rifle down to get the front band on.

http://www.scopemounts.com/index.html?main.html

You could then simply attach a set of offset rings onto this over-the-bore scope rail. Trouble is, the scope would be so high up by then that you'd have trouble getting a decent sight picture.





Parker Hale made a commercial slide-off side mount for the No1 action (the "Continental"), as did a number of Australian gunsmiths. These mounts occasionally turn up. They do, of course, require drilling and tapping of the receiver.

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Repro WW1 offset scope rings & mounts are sometimes available, but are extremely expensive. The most common type - PPCo - requires an extremely skilled gunsmith to attach the mount within the very narrow tolerances needed to align the scope with the rifle bore. I don't know of anyone who is capable of doing that work these days, although I've seen quite a few bodged attempts. You do on rare occasions come across a rifle that has been set up correctly.

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Re: Question on: Off-Set Scopes for SMLE and Ishapore

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:44 pm
by snayperskaya
And I thought Russian scopes had a fair offset!!!.

Re: Question on: Off-Set Scopes for SMLE and Ishapore

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:59 am
by Maggot
dromia wrote:Because he is a sadist.

It is the only explanation for the posts he subjects us to on here.
Cos it wrong