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joe wrote:for getting rid of copper, i use tretra copper solvent

Might be a useful tip for our next bank job...

meles meles wrote:

joe wrote:for getting rid of copper, i use tretra copper solvent

Might be a useful tip for our next bank job...

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ovenpaa wrote:Something that has come out of this is the importance of drying and oiling your barrel after use. My method is pass dry patches through the barrel until I am absolutely happy the bore has been dried followed by a decent amount of oil on a patch pushed through the barrel, topped up and pulled back through the chamber. The rifle is then put away. I use the C2R oil for obvious reasons however any reasonable gun oil should suffice, despite the advertised virtues of WD40 I never use the stuff on a rifle.

These days we still use Napier Super VP90 in the cabinets however we also have a thermostatically controlled tube heater system in the armoury to further protect things and the combination of three layers of 'protection' seems to work well.

Never let WD40 near a rifle and it was banned on aircraft. It does displace water....to somewhere else.

I use C2R on the lot but use Mpro7 oil and cleaner for a quick clean....which reminds me...the bloody No4 needs a clean after Sunday....bugger!!!

Dont forget to wipe the outside of the barrel down after use, I found light surface rust on my AR barrel after a clean. Entirely my fault but it needs a wipe as much as anything else.

Maggot wrote:

ovenpaa wrote:Something that has come out of this is the importance of drying and oiling your barrel after use. My method is pass dry patches through the barrel until I am absolutely happy the bore has been dried followed by a decent amount of oil on a patch pushed through the barrel, topped up and pulled back through the chamber. The rifle is then put away. I use the C2R oil for obvious reasons however any reasonable gun oil should suffice, despite the advertised virtues of WD40 I never use the stuff on a rifle.

These days we still use Napier Super VP90 in the cabinets however we also have a thermostatically controlled tube heater system in the armoury to further protect things and the combination of three layers of 'protection' seems to work well.

Never let WD40 near a rifle and it was banned on aircraft. It does displace water....to somewhere else.

I use C2R on the lot but use Mpro7 oil and cleaner for a quick clean....which reminds me...the bloody No4 needs a clean after Sunday....bugger!!!

Dont forget to wipe the outside of the barrel down after use, I found light surface rust on my AR barrel after a clean. Entirely my fault but it needs a wipe as much as anything else.

Eh, you shouldn't be getting rust on an AR barrel?????

Rust will happen on ANY barrel if the conditions are right, whether its blued, blacked, stainless or basically anything that isn't coated (e.g. baked paint, Duracoat etc).

Benelli shotgun barrels (or rather the ribs) are notorious for 'hidden' rust that you can't see until you rub them with an oily cloth. Once i shifted it all off mine when i first got it (rust was there from the shop) when ever i clean it i give the barrel a rub with a cloth soaked in basic gun oil (Bisley) and its never returned.

No-one has mentioned Robla Solo Mil barrel cleaner yet..............it's the most effective copper remover I've found.
I've tried C2R and KG12, and neither of them come anywhere near it.

https://www.ballistolstore.co.uk/index. ... solo%20mil

Pete

I've tried that stuff and found spitting down the barrel to be more effective for removing copper.

I must have had a duff batch.

Like all ammonia based cleaners you are paying for the label, household ammonia does as good a job as any of them at a fraction of the cost.

Thanks for the reminder, Dromia........don't buy this if you're anal about using ammoniacal cleaners. This is seriously ammoniacal...........follow the instructions.
All I can say is that I've been using it for some years now in stainless and chrome moly barrels, without any problems. Even plugging and filling the barrel and leaving overnight.
During my previous life as an industrial chemist, I used ammoniacal copper solvents routinely, and there's a lot more to them than Scrubbs Household ammonia!!
If you found it wasn't working, then it was most likely down to shelf life. It does have a limited shelf life once opened.
As with any water-based cleaner, it's advisable to shove a couple of water wetted patches through before drying it thoroughly and oiling.
For the latter, I use http://www.amazon.co.uk/3-IN-ONE-400ml- ... B000Y8Q6SI

Pete

Aye it is funny how the theory and actual practice always differ.